goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Chris Carson
- 08 Jul 2016 18:41
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Not sure the Police Federation would agree with you on that one Hays :0)
cynic
- 08 Jul 2016 18:50
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personally i too would rather have may at the helm, precisely because she was pro remain and will therefore (i think) find it easier to re-unite the party
cynic
- 08 Jul 2016 18:50
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personally i too would rather have may at the helm, precisely because she was pro remain and will therefore (i think) find it easier to re-unite the party
iturama
- 08 Jul 2016 19:47
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If the party votes for Andrea, it will be based on the majority vote, ipso facto the best person to unite the party, if not the Parliamentary element. But they will fall in line looking for positions in her government. Except for ol' Ken of course - Hays' mate.
Haystack
- 08 Jul 2016 20:24
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You are right, they will all fall in line although Andrea is described by some as the Conservative Corbyn as the majority 2 to 1 want May.
Chris Carson
- 08 Jul 2016 22:46
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Exactly Exec, if Gove had been in the running pardon my French he is a,TWAT! (just like Fred) no question May would get my full backing. Thank God he isn't. So with the choice we are left with hedging bet I am with Andrea, because May sat on the fence and lost pinning her colours at the last minute to remain. Go Andrea :0)
Haystack
- 08 Jul 2016 23:05
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It is certainly going to be an interesting election although it may get a bit tedious as we have to wait a couple of months or more.
Haystack
- 08 Jul 2016 23:43
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Whereas May is 1/4 on. That makes May about 16 times more likely if the odds were probablity.
iturama
- 09 Jul 2016 07:39
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I notice that rag The Times has been at it again. Taking selected words from Andrea to make it look like she was superior to Theresa for having children. The worst type of gutter journalism.
There was a time before the internet when I used to look forward to a lazy Sunday reading the Sunday Times. Then they covered a story that I knew the details of and I realized the scribblers simply make it up. They stitch words together to make a story, leaving out the inconvenient parts that don't fit their narrative. I have never bought or bothered to read either since.
The Times came out for remain and is determined to smear those that led the Brexit campaign in whatever way it can. Not fit for bog paper.
ExecLine
- 09 Jul 2016 09:01
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Iturama
Your post motivated me to check TheTimes for myself. Sad to see you are perfectly correct with your comment.
From the BBC - the section UK Politics
Row erupts over Andrea Leadsom 'motherhood' interview
14 minutes ago
Leadsom says being mum gives her a 'stake in future of UK'
A row has erupted after Conservative leadership candidate Andrea Leadsom was accused of suggesting that having children made her a better choice to be prime minister.
The Times quoted Mrs Leadsom saying having children means she has "a very real stake" in Britain's future.
But the mother of three tweeted that she was "disgusted" with the interview.
Times journalist Rachel Sylvester has defended her article saying she was "baffled" by Mrs Leadsom's reaction.
Earlier Mrs May, who has no children, called for a "clean campaign" pledge.
The Times headlined its front-page lead story "Being a mother gives me edge on May - Leadsom."
It quoted the energy minister as saying Mrs May "possibly has nieces, nephews, lots of people. But I have children who are going to have children who will directly be part of what happens next".
According to the Times, Mrs Leadsom also said: "I am sure Theresa will be really sad she doesn't have children so I don't want this to be 'Andrea has children, Theresa hasn't', because I think that would be really horrible."
In a later statement Mrs Leadsom said she was "beyond anger and disgust" at the newspaper's front page.
"The reporting of what I said is beneath contempt," she said. "In front of the Times correspondent and photographer, I made clear repeatedly that nothing I said should be used in any way to suggest that Theresa May not having children had any bearing whatever on the leadership election. I expect the Times to retract the article and the accompanying headline."
The Times has not officially responded to Mrs Leadsom, but the newspaper's deputy editor, Emma Tucker, tweeted what she said was a transcript from a section of the interview
Mrs May's campaign team declined to comment on the story.
However, Treasury minister David Gauke - who supports Mrs May - said "an apology is due". He tweeted: "I'd like to think this is a case of verbal clumsiness, not calculation. If the latter, yuk."
But former Conservative MP Ann Widdecombe said Mrs Leadsom's words were probably misconstrued. She told BBC Radio 5 Live: "Even the most experienced politicians, even prime ministers themselves can be misquoted, misinterpreted, misunderstood, make some careless phraseology. It happens all the time."
'Clean campaign pledge'
It comes after Ms May challenged her rival in the race to Downing Street to sign up to a "clean campaign pledge". Mrs May said both candidates should ensure the campaign stays within "the acceptable limits of political debate". She said the public was tired of "people acting like politics is a game" and vowed to put forward a "positive vision for the future", saying the two of them should also agree not to work with other political parties or their donors.
Mrs Leadsom - who backed a vote to leave the EU - has received endorsements from ex-UKIP leader Nigel Farage and pro-Brexit campaign Leave.EU, led by UKIP donor Arron Banks. Mrs Leadsom has said she has "no allegiance" to UKIP.
Media captionAndrea Leadsom calls for 'honourable' campaigning
She told The Times: "I'm no UKIP sympathiser. They don't advise me, I don't know them, I've never even met Arron Banks. "My big hope in this campaign is that when we leave the EU UKIP will be a thing of the past.
Mrs Leadsom and Mrs May will battle it out to become the next leader of the Conservative Party, after two rounds of voting by Tory MPs reduced the number of contenders to two.
After the second MPs' ballot, Home Secretary Mrs May finished with 199 votes and Energy Minister Mrs Leadsom 84.
Conservative party members across the country will now decide the winning candidate, with the result due on 9 September.
Conservative leadership election Timeline
Ballot papers sent out mid-August
Ballot closes at noon on Friday 9 September. Votes will be counted electronically.
Conservative Party members can vote by postal ballot or online.
"Qualifying party members" of more than three months' standing can vote. In practice, anyone who joined the party by 9 June.
The spending limit set by the Conservative 1922 Committee is £135,000.
Hustings to be organised across the UK.
grannyboy
- 09 Jul 2016 09:09
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I bet all those clamouring for May is/was/still is Blairites...
HAHA..MAY a Blairite babe....
Fred1new
- 09 Jul 2016 09:12
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It is the tory party running to Matron.
Claret Dragon
- 09 Jul 2016 09:26
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Every PM lately has been to Oxford Unı.
Nothıng changes
MaxK
- 09 Jul 2016 09:43
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I suspect, judging by this (ahem) article, that the lefty €urohuggers are actually terrified... it's so blatantly partisan, there can be no other reason.
Andrea Leadsom is the leader of an am-dram peasants’ revolt
Marina Hyde
Saturday 9 July 2016 06.00 BST
As a ferociously keen Bible student, Andrea Leadsom will know whether she is predicted in the Book of Revelation. For those of us operating on a lower plane, condemned to pick through the entrails of the past fortnight, the portents are not hugely encouraging. On the basis that most things that could have gone wrong have, there is absolutely no reason to think that Andrea doesn’t have an excellent chance of nicking this.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/09/andrea-leadsom-tory-leadership-am-dram-peasant-revolt
Quote:
Which leaves us with Theresa May. Has it really come to this? Yes. Yes, I’m afraid it has. There are few neater indicators of quite how far we’ve travelled over the past 14 days than to find so many people, particularly non-Tory voters, now actively yearning for it to be Theresa May. “Christ,” muttered one friend with wry despair, “I now want this more than I did Obama.” Yup, we’re all realpolitikos now. Stick a fork in my dreams. They’re done.
Haystack
- 09 Jul 2016 09:54
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It looks like Leadsom is lying again. I saw the journalist being interviewed this morning. She seemed a very sensible person. She stands by her article that Leadsom said she was better placed to win than May as she has children. It looks like Leadsom has been caught out again in a porkie. How long before the next lie?
Fred1new
- 09 Jul 2016 11:05
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I think the slapping has started.
Amazing how both major parties show an absence of competent and quality leadership.
But the Con party is running out of knives.
iturama
- 09 Jul 2016 11:10
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They all seem reasonable until their editor tells them to spice it up. Reasonable stories dont sell newspapers or promote the cause. They have to find a story or invent one. Doesn't matter as long as it makes the deadline. I have a bridge I can sell you, Hays.
Haystack
- 09 Jul 2016 11:19
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Leadsom complained and asked for the newspaper to release the transcript. The Times has released it and it supports their version.
She was still whining about being misrepresented so they have released the audio of the interview which supports the newspaper again. Leadsom clearly caught out in a lie.
A distinct lack of experience in handling media.
Someone pointed out that Sadam Hussein, Stalin, Himmler all had children, so not much of a qualification.