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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dil - 05 Aug 2017 20:50 - 7249 of 12628

So happy to be leaving , have a nice holiday Fred and tell the locals more of us wanted out than in and that's why we're leaving.

hilary - 06 Aug 2017 08:01 - 7250 of 12628

This may at first glance appear to be nothing more than a social media prank, but it's actually the truth about what the French feel about the tourists who come each summer. It's not aimed specifically at the Brits - They feel the same about German, Dutch, Belgian tourists too.

Unamused French mayor reassures tourists after they're told to 'Go f***ing home'

hilary - 06 Aug 2017 08:12 - 7251 of 12628

At the moment, I am in the South of France, where many are bemused by the "Brexit" actions of Little Englanders, but also dismiss the action of little passing importance.

At the moment, so am I, and 33.9% of the natives around these parts voted for Marine le Pen in the second round run off of the presidential election so they could exit the EU themselves. The 66.1% who voted for Macron and En Marche (on the move, change, forwards), ignored the political establishment and voted for change because they were disillusioned at the lack of employment opportunity in France métropolitaine amongst other things.

In fact, the local who I spent yesterday afternoon talking to in the sea as we tried to keep cool, was praising the actions of the Brits for leaving the EU.

Dil - 06 Aug 2017 10:13 - 7252 of 12628

Hils , that banner probably reflects the feeling of many locals in many tourist areas not just in France but in the UK too.

That was certainly the case where I grew up on Barry Island and imo was justified even though personally as a kid I loved the summer and the influx of hundreds of teenage girls each week :-)

hilary - 06 Aug 2017 10:49 - 7253 of 12628

Have you got a 'Mae twristiaid yn mynd adref ffycin' banner, Dilbert?

:o)

hilary - 06 Aug 2017 10:57 - 7254 of 12628

But yes Dil, you're right. The same thing applies over the border in Spain, where Catalan and Basque groups are targeting tourists.

From the BBC

It's understandable to a degree. The population in my little town swells three or four fold during July and August. You can't park in the town, and the shops are full. The permanent residents know that the local economy needs tourism, and they're discreet about who they complain to and what they say, but the underlying sentiment is still there.

Martini - 06 Aug 2017 18:56 - 7255 of 12628

Hilary/Dil

On the same subject

From the Guardian

iturama - 06 Aug 2017 22:05 - 7256 of 12628

7250. If its not specifically aimed at the Brits, why is it in english? Why not " bugger off Bosch and find your own deck chairs?"

hilary - 07 Aug 2017 07:54 - 7257 of 12628

From what I understand, he had several banners in different languages. He flew two banners, and the police were waiting for him back at the airstrip before he could fly the others.

iturama - 07 Aug 2017 08:11 - 7258 of 12628

7255. The scribbler for the Guardian can't even spell Janeiro. For years I drove daily through Ipanema and never saw drunken tourists. Even on New Year's Eve in Copacabana. Alcohol is not served on the beach and in any case the chopp is so weak that you are more likely to drown in it than become drunk. Find one lie and there are probably others there to spice up the article.
On the general theme of visitors annoying locals, of course it goes on. Ask the folk of Cornwall or anyone living within 25 miles of Heathrow where, unfortunately, the visitors don't return home.

ExecLine - 14 Aug 2017 09:36 - 7259 of 12628

I've just seen the 'Petition for Theresa May to sack Philip Hammond' at:

https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-sack-philip-hammond#share

It has reached 'approx 37,000' votes already!

Fred1new - 14 Aug 2017 10:37 - 7260 of 12628

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MaxK - 14 Aug 2017 10:41 - 7261 of 12628

Hammond is a snake in the grass, sooner gone the better.

MaxK - 14 Aug 2017 10:57 - 7262 of 12628

Exclusive: Cut stamp duty now, says Jacob Rees-Mogg, as he reveals his vision for the Conservative Party







By Telegraph Reporters
13 August 2017 • 9:30pm






Deputy Political Editor Steven Swinford will be answering questions on this story in the comments section from 12pm. Register here for free to join the debate and have your say.



Stamp duty must be cut "as a matter of urgency" as part of a return to Conservative values if the party is to win the next election, Jacob Rees-Mogg declares today.

Writing for The Telegraph, the Tory MP denies speculation that he is preparing to challenge Theresa May but condemns her election campaign as "too managerial" and "lacking inspiration".

Setting out his vision for electoral success he urges Mrs May to reduce stamp duty and income tax, demolish tower blocks and tackle "scarcely competent monopolies" such as the energy markets.



More if you pay here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/13/exclusive-cut-stamp-duty-now-says-jacob-rees-mogg-reveals-vision/

ExecLine - 14 Aug 2017 11:25 - 7263 of 12628

Oooh! I absolutely love 'im.

(I wonder why he has never been given a ministerial position? I do think, that as soon as he has been given one, then he becomes a total power threat!)

Fred1new - 14 Aug 2017 14:21 - 7264 of 12628

More like a ghoulish power failure!

Stan - 14 Aug 2017 15:03 - 7265 of 12628

The next "Con"artist Tory leader as advised.

mentor - 14 Aug 2017 15:28 - 7266 of 12628

Brexit campaigners launch bid to oust pro-EU finance minister
Mon, 14th Aug 2017 14:09

LONDON, Aug 14 (Reuters) - One of the most vocal pro-Brexit campaign groups launched a campaign on Monday to oust finance minister Philip Hammond from parliament, saying he is part of a plot to stop Britain leaving the European Union.

Divisions over Britain's Brexit strategy have resurfaced after Prime Minister Theresa May lost her parliamentary majority in an ill-judged snap election in June, generating renewed political pressure from some quarters for a softer exit.

Hammond has led calls for a multi-year, staggered break from the EU in the name of protecting the British economy, much to the annoyance of some Brexiteers who want a more decisive divorce when Britain's membership ends in March 2019.

That has put Hammond in the crosshairs of campaign group Leave.EU, whose grassroots organisation helped bring about last year's referendum vote to leave the bloc.

"He is part of a cabal of Westminster MPs (Members of Parliament) who believe that if they can delay exit, they can overturn the wishes of the 52 percent who despite threats from the political classes drew upon the courage of their conviction at the ballot box," said Leave.EU Chairman Arron Banks in a letter to voters in Hammond's constituency.

There is no automatic means for voters to get rid of their local member of parliament outside of an election period, and Britain is not scheduled to hold another vote until 2022.

But Leave.EU called on their supporters to pressure the local Conservative Party not to select him as their candidate at the next election. The group has also targeted interior minister Amber Rudd, who only won her seat by a slim majority in June.

There was no immediate comment available from the Treasury or Hammond's local office.

Many pro-Brexit voters sense the government is going soft on the decision to leave the EU. They reject calls for a lengthy transition period and demand that tighter immigration controls are brought in as soon as possible.

"Time for the people to strike back and remind the elite of the referendum," Leave.EU said in a statement.

hilary - 14 Aug 2017 16:54 - 7267 of 12628

I'd like to ask another question of the Brexiters on here please.

How many of you have children? If you do have children, how many children and grandchildren do you have? And did your children and grandchildren also vote to leave, or did they express an opinion if they weren't old enough to vote?

Dil - 14 Aug 2017 19:51 - 7268 of 12628

One voted out , one was in the States but would have voted in and the other one was three months short of being 18 and couldn't vote and was undecided as to what she would have voted.
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