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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

grannyboy - 07 Mar 2016 14:51 - 73 of 12628

HARRYCAT its the small and medium sized companies that employ the most workers, simply because there is more of them.

The big multi nationals have the biggest influence in Brussels because they have/pay lobbiest to push their causes...Juncker was prime minister of Luxenburg when he was devising tax scams for mult-nationals.

dreamcatcher - 07 Mar 2016 14:59 - 74 of 12628

Yes Cynic. I am sure out, But I do not think there is any politician/think tank that truthfully can tell us the consequences of this action. As said above, it may only be a few months before all countries are out. I tend to think Finland is doing very well out, but our economy is different to theirs.

jimmy b - 07 Mar 2016 14:59 - 75 of 12628

Arguing in your own mind cynic , not very healthy !!!

cynic - 07 Mar 2016 15:01 - 76 of 12628

it's called sensible considerationand deliberation ..... further it doesn't have the likes of fred blathering in there ...... if it were otherwise, i'ld be very worried indeed

jimmy b - 07 Mar 2016 15:01 - 77 of 12628

You shouldn't think too much either DC .

jimmy b - 07 Mar 2016 15:02 - 78 of 12628

You know Fred doesn't have an opinion .

cynic - 07 Mar 2016 15:03 - 79 of 12628

even more reason to be worried if he was blathering in my head!

dreamcatcher - 07 Mar 2016 15:04 - 80 of 12628

I'm getting too much sun. :-)) Why bother coming home, you have to ask ?

jimmy b - 07 Mar 2016 15:07 - 81 of 12628

dreamcatcher - 07 Mar 2016 15:08 - 82 of 12628

That's me . lol

2517GEORGE - 07 Mar 2016 15:31 - 83 of 12628

Unemployment rates in the Euro-zone
Germany 6.2% Lowest rate since Reunification
Euro Average 8.9%
France 10.3%
Austria 10.4%
Italy 11.5%
Portugal 12.2%
Spain 20.9%
Greece 24.6%

Since 1999 when the single currency was introduced it has certainly benefited Germany at the expense of Greece, Spain and Portugal, (Indeed most other members) The one-size fits all suits Germany.

dreamcatcher - 07 Mar 2016 15:47 - 84 of 12628

Greece is surely never going to repay its loans or indeed recover. They are in a very bad way.

jimmy b - 07 Mar 2016 15:58 - 85 of 12628

Yes they are and Europe has all but abandoned them .
Merkel invites the middle east to Europe and when she realises the problem she has caused leaves it to Greece ,disgusting.
I like Greece ,i have been to many of the islands including those that are now migrant camps ,the Greek people are generally good ,i really feel for them.

MaxK - 07 Mar 2016 16:01 - 86 of 12628

‘This is all a German racket designed to take over the whole of Europe.


‘It has to be thwarted. This rushed takeover by the Germans on the worst possible basis, with the French behaving like poodles to the Germans, is absolutely intolerable . . . I’m not against giving up sovereignty in principle, but not to this lot.


You might just as well give it up to Adolf Hitler, frankly.’



N. Ridley


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2680183/Is-EU-just-German-racket-Europe-Nearly-25-years-ago-Tory-minister-told-DOMINIC-LAWSON-lost-job-firestorm-followed-right-along.html



dreamcatcher - 07 Mar 2016 16:08 - 87 of 12628

Interesting Max, very sad jimmy for the youngsters of the country as well.

dreamcatcher - 08 Mar 2016 16:04 - 88 of 12628

Interesting to hear the Bank of England governors remarks today. Thought he was meant to stay neutral. Seems to be backing staying in, with the instability remarks of leaving.

grannyboy - 08 Mar 2016 17:19 - 89 of 12628

Mervyn King on Sunday was guardedly for leaving..As to the present BOE governor, he stated his views a couple of months ago, towing the governments line..

dreamcatcher - 08 Mar 2016 17:37 - 90 of 12628

I suppose Mark Carney (Bank of England governor) has to give his view

grannyboy - 08 Mar 2016 18:59 - 91 of 12628

There's far too many pro europhiles GIVING their pro eu stance when what they're spouting is either deception, speculation or plain LIES...

Some of them need to keep their mouths shut, to give the appearance of neutrality..

cynic - 08 Mar 2016 19:51 - 92 of 12628

carney did not have that luxury
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