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Northern Rock (NRK)     

irlee57 - 13 Aug 2007 09:03

any comments, thoughts, on this stock.

beachwalk - 17 Oct 2007 12:01 - 737 of 1029

before the share price crash, lloyds TSB were sniffing round in secret. And if the BOE had made money available in secret, the shares would still be around 7 or more. be patient and value will return. i remember British steel crashing to 4p a few years ago and the company was done for. Id didn't tak elong before they were 50p and birg profits for patient shareholders.

cynic - 17 Oct 2007 12:09 - 738 of 1029

and what about those whose bought Eurotunnel or Marconi?

hlyeo98 - 17 Oct 2007 13:15 - 739 of 1029

A bit in the limbo now, cynic. Are you still holding on?

cynic - 17 Oct 2007 13:26 - 740 of 1029

yes i am ...... see no reason to think other than what i did when i went short

skinny - 17 Oct 2007 13:32 - 741 of 1029

CE of virgin money on working lunch talking about NRK.

cynic - 17 Oct 2007 13:33 - 742 of 1029

he sure ain't going to say, "Frightfully sorry all you shareholders, but you will end up with bugger all!"

skinny - 17 Oct 2007 13:40 - 743 of 1029

Hmmm not 1 mention of shareholders.

halifax - 17 Oct 2007 13:46 - 744 of 1029

The shareholders will be the depositors when it reverts to being a building society.

cynic - 17 Oct 2007 14:23 - 745 of 1029

will they? ...... and even if so, at what price per share (effectively)?

halifax - 17 Oct 2007 15:13 - 746 of 1029

ZERO!

cynic - 17 Oct 2007 15:15 - 747 of 1029

quite possibly, which is why i am happy to be short

hlyeo98 - 18 Oct 2007 11:29 - 748 of 1029

205p now...looking quite dormant for the past couple of days...probably hibernating for the winter.

cynic - 19 Oct 2007 12:52 - 749 of 1029

admittedly from a biased position, i am truly amazed that sp remains as firm as it does, especially since today's revelation that NRK had to borrow yet a further 3bn from BoE ....... bet you couldn't borrow 3k that easily from your own bank!

Big Al - 19 Oct 2007 14:06 - 750 of 1029

Obviously the market still beleives there's value here or it wouldn't be holding up.

The market is rarely wrong my friends. ;-))

cynic - 19 Oct 2007 14:33 - 751 of 1029

that is the only worry, though BFC stood firm for a long time at around 12/14 before the plug was finally pulled ...... anyway, shall continue to run short protected with guaranteed stops

Big Al - 19 Oct 2007 14:43 - 752 of 1029

BFC was a slightly different prospect to NRK, cynic.

You are right to place guaranteed stops, however.

frodo - 19 Oct 2007 15:09 - 753 of 1029

I was led to believe the Market was never wrong. Can a seroius comparison between NRK and BFC be made? Is it true that the more money you have in something the less likely you are to accept the loss despite bad news and does this thinking happen to the really big investors? Would NRK borrow these sums of money today anyway from other banks which we wouldent get to hear about?

halifax - 19 Oct 2007 15:29 - 754 of 1029

Resignation of Chairman Ridley saves him further embarassment, perhaps we will hear something about NRK's future next week.

partridge - 19 Oct 2007 15:32 - 755 of 1029

Both companies ran out of cash, albeit for very different reasons and on very different scales. Whether NRKs net assets prove more attractive to potential bidders than in the case of BFC is yet to be determined.

cynic - 19 Oct 2007 15:57 - 756 of 1029

only point i was making was that while BFC was at 12/14 Barclays (investment arm?) was buying like crazy ...... Barclays was also BFC's bank, so you would have thought there would have to have been some sort of x-pollenation.

anyway, market seems slowly to be agreeing about NRK, or at least sp is slowly slipping south
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