Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

German Green MEP Rebecca Harms has called for an end to
referendums across the EU because... "Democracy threatens the EU"

So that's their aim eventually..

That has always been their aim grannyboy, to remove the sovereignty of all member countries.
2517

2517, Yes that's why we have to vote LEAVE, otherwise
we'll be drawn further down the road to total intergration
and lose our identity for ever...

Is it their aim George or Germany's aim I wonder . How to conquer Europe without firing a shot maybe , and we are falling over our selves to make it happen .

Its Gemany's always has been.

The EU is Germany, they run the show...

While were at it pull out of the World Cup finals.. Germans always winning it.

They are a good side!

LOL.

A school boys' dormitory!

There was a post on another board saying that Germany will be the downfall of the EU too intricate to explain but the person writing it was a German .

A cottage in Birmingham, save Stan now :0)

Birmingham? lock up your daughters... the Clarets are coming to town -):

EU Big Five launch tax crackdown http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36049817

international co-operation is the only way to deal with this
an individual country would never be able to crack open the convoluted trails
of course, what is really needed is the co-operation of european countries like switzerland and luxembourg
hoping for similar from the likes of panama is like baying for the moon

Its all sound bites and political, Osborne is more interested in
emphasing his 'European partners' , it's attempting to brainwashing
the public into thinking without the EU nothing can be done....
It's all deception of course, they can close the tax loopholes,
its along the lines of we're not safe outside the eu, its false..

The eu countries NEED the UK for IT'S Intelligence operations like GCHQ.

I wonder if the Intelligence Agencies track Dave , to look for intelligence or have they given up .

this tax thing is nothing to with the referendum, any more than is international cooperation between intelligence agencies

Intelligence agencies will still cooperate if we are out of EU.

exactly so, whatever the gov't leaflet may say to the contrary

I sent my leaflet back to the Tory party freepost ,i hope many others will do so maybe Cameron will get the message .

If Weeing Jimmy has his way.

France warns UK post-Brexit trade deal would mean paying to EU budget


France's economy minister, Emmanuel Macron, told those advocating an exit of Britain from the European Union they were wrong if they thought they could clinch a trade deal with the remaining EU without contributing to the bloc's budget.

In a video interview with the Financial Times published online on Friday, Macron said Britain could strike a trade deal similar to the one Norway or Switzerland have, but that it would still have to contribute towards the EU budget and even then would not automatically receive full-fledged access to the single market.

Asked whether the "Leave campaign" was right to argue that Britain would be able to negotiate the same trade deal with the EU if it left than the one it currently enjoys as a member, he said:

"I think that's a big mistake. The best possible trade deal is the one you have and especially the one just renegotiated with the rest of the EU.

"So those who pretend that passporting will be preserved exactly following the same rules without any contribution to the budget, are making a big, a big mistake because it's completely wrong," Macron added.

"So for sure, you can renegotiate a trade arrangement, but this trade deal will be less favourable to the UK than being part of the club," he said.

He also said Britain would also have to face volatility between the June referendum on Brexit and the time it implements any trade deal, which would take one to two years.

Macron, who has sought to pressure the European Commission and EU members into imposing higher tariffs on cheap Chinese steel imports, said Britain would struggle to stand up to China outside the 28-member union.

"Do you think you will be in a situation to protect your steel industry tomorrow if you are alone as the UK economy facing the Chinese one?" he asked.

"I do believe it's much more efficient to be part of the EU."

(Reporting by Michel Rose Editing by Jeremy Gaunt)