Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

As to that pro eu leaflet, I split it up into 8 seperate pages,
they got posted this morning..

8 envelopes....

Whilst I would like us to continue to trade with Europe there are other trading opportunities, more than 6 times the size of Europe.
2517

That's not very efficient grannyboy, are you an MEP. lol
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I sent mine as one but i think grannyboy wants Dave to get the message .

2517 it was a freepost address, just had to supply the envelopes,
But it was worth it.....;D

Granny.

You are a clever fellow.

Ukip needs your abilities.

Why nor send some empty envelopes as well.

I hope Wavy Dave will reply.

fred I'm certainly a lot cleverer then YOU'RE, AND I don't
have to use disgusting cartoons to get any valid point across!.

Granny,

I am a littles surprised that you understand the cartoons.

Surprising how much content can be contained in a few brush or pen strokes.

I've already told YOU, i'm a lot cleverer then you'l ever be, and I don't need to use crass cartoons to put an argument across.

What about Corbyn "we should stay in the EU" biggest hypocrite ever.

I can think of somebody a far larger hypocrite than Corbyn!

Yeah and me, Harriet Hypocrite Harman, I expect that is who you had in mind Fred.
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Corbyn has been opposed to the EU for many years and was attacking it last year. He has ditched his principles and supported the EU because his party would turn on him even more than it has so far.

When I was 5years old I believed in a god.

Times change, opinions of the sensible change in accordance with developments.

Corbyn declaration on his opinion of the EU seems to coincide with moderate opinion of EU its benefits and problem.

He also comes over as honest and thoughtful, which must be a difficult position for the opportunistic tory to understand.

But it is laughable that Cameron has got into the mess he is in by proposing a referendum on EU to placate the looney right of a split tory party.

His egocentric decision is coming back to bite him.

He needs all the help he can get to not go down in history as a failure who led the UK out of the EU.

Cameron and his mate Osborne are egocentric sociopaths directed by opportunistic self-gain with little respect of others.

He should have raised his right arm higher!

in his heart, corbyn may indeed not support staying in eu
however, as party leader he has an obligation to support the majority within plp, and that is to stay in

Yes Fred, when you were 5 you believed in a God. Now you think you are God!

Corbin is a hypocrite. Gonna take more than any Holy intervention for him and your beloved Labour Party to be elected as the next government any time soon, and you know it.

Corbyn has made no attempt to support the PLP about any other issue such as Trident, Syria, austerity etc.

Manuel,

Remind me, how many times did Churchill change parties.

How many U-turns has Cameron done in 6years.

How many reversals has Georgie boy made in the last 6months or 6 years.

Perhaps, Corbyn's change of views is just realism.

Exit from the EU in the present world economic and international political state would likely lead to chaos.

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Ask Cameron what plans he has for Syria and if his austerity programme has been successful.

He could always put it to a vote in a GE.