Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

bentley are no longer british!
it's now owned by VW

I knew that still driven by the wrong people .

Let them leave all these so called pseudo British Companies. Then may be the gap can be filled with a new generation of start ups that may or may not work. I just cant stand the negativity of some.

What have you done with Dil?

Is May positive?

Claret Dragon View Claret Dragon's profile - 22 Aug 2017 14:39 - 7372 of 7373

Let them leave all these so called pseudo British Companies. Then may be the gap can be filled with a new generation of start ups that may or may not work. I just cant stand the negativity of some.


One "May" and one "May or May not" in there CD... people want certainty not maybes.

P.S. Your football team are crap -):

Certainties. Do you know of any Stan.



Yes they are crap

Well I can think of one off the top of my head and that is the certainty that people are going to get back what they're already lost through devaluation of the £ already, and that's before anything else has been decided on our European membership...is it certain or not that they will get their losses back?

I'm sure I can think of more in time as can other people.

Jimbo,

So, do the Kias and Hy'n'dries depreciate more or less than the Mercs and Beemers? Ditto the junk the yanks produce? Seriously??

The five cars that depreciate the most... not a German car to be seen, but there's a Jag in the list!

Brexit will cause a 40% drop in air travel to the €U says sky news.



http://news.sky.com/story/uk-air-traffic-faces-slump-without-brexit-deal-airports-warn-11000318



And it will only effect blighty, all the continentals will be ok.

We are obviously still a post Brexit power with influence.

Thin end of the wedge stuff..


EU judges to have final say on British disputes, key Brexit document suggests


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/22/exclusive-britain-would-bound-european-courts-brexit-plans-considered/

Hilary , actually Mercedes do depreciate quite badly and i never understand why , look at the S class ,the CLS or the sports 2 seat models ,in fact just about all of them .
The build quality is excellent and mostly they are solid and reliable but they do dump their value hugely .

PS most of the cars in that list are junk anyway except the Jag which like Mercs do also seem to crash in value .

Is this because they like a lot of other make's of car are not of the same quality as they used to be.

I suspect the real reason for depreciation is upkeep costs.

Modern cars in general are fast becoming unfixable at a sensible price:

Full of electronics and specialised fittings that require main dealer servicing (expensive) Engine rebuilds are a thing of the past, ditto gearboxes etc.

When the mechanic needs a computer to tell him whats wrong, you know you are in trouble.

Morning Stan - we will be £40 better off due to lower food prices.

Being part of the customs union will stop us doing free trade deals with other countries so that's a loser.

What was the 3rd question ?


Hils , they've been trying to nick business from London for Frankfurt for years. Won't happen unless they can persuade the rest of the world to dump us too.

As for cars , Nissan will be the gainers.

Au contraire Stanley, there are very few badly built cars today compared to the absolute junk sold in the past. Today it is a matter of taste and wallet. Like phones, the technology is changing fast. I change my RX every two years because of the rapid advances in hybrid technology and other features such as HOD, cameras, radar and other safety features. Besides, I usually get a good deal.
Hilary's list was 4 years old and very few of the vehicles shown, if any, were sold in the UK. Being in the US, the showroom prices would have been on average 40 - 60% lower than the UK, so I guess the depreciation after a year would bring them down to around UK new prices anyhow.

Dil , Honda too i think .

I know, Dilbert - I was playing Devil's Advocate. :o)

Fwiw, I think the UK will lose a few financial service sector jobs, but not that many, as banks, etc merely bolster their EU presence. However, they're not about to move their bases out of the UK.

Why? For a start, the UK is the established world leader in financial services provision, whilst Frankfurt and Paris are just wannabees. They also happen to speak English in the UK, and London sits nicely between HK/Singapore and New York for handling the chageovers. Can you imagine a yank or an oriental trying to communicate with his French counterpart in Paris, or a German in Frankfurt, to effect the handover?

In addition, jobs in Germany and France are 'for life'. No bank in their right mind wants to negotiate French or German employment law any more than is absolutely necessary.