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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

maddoctor - 25 Jan 2008 15:42 - 738 of 21973

well shorted but only for the brave or foolhardy :-)))

stroreysj - 25 Jan 2008 15:44 - 739 of 21973

Redirecting $'s from over inflated miltary contracts to the domestic economy would be a good start.

its not before time the US economy gets hit hard as credit lines eventually get maxed out. Unfortunately the rest of the world is still hung up on it being the centre of the universe and we all have to suffer with a bad hangover because one of the members of the team drank too much. Im not convinced decoupling will happen anytime soon but sooner are later arab states as well as the chinese are going to sick of importing inflation and the problems that come with it because of the US's mistakes. The mkts will be an even more unpredictible place

My stocks are still going up so what do I care. Volitility breathes opportunity

jimmy b - 25 Jan 2008 15:52 - 740 of 21973

I've been both brave and foolhardy this week :-) .. :-(

explosive - 25 Jan 2008 15:56 - 741 of 21973

Theres not even a decent range to trade on the DOW today, mind you the last couple of days have seen the action in the final hours...

cynic - 25 Jan 2008 16:14 - 742 of 21973

matter of opinion! ..... i went short first thing this morning when indications were +90

stroreysj - 25 Jan 2008 16:21 - 743 of 21973

Nothing fundamental seems to be moving it downwards other than an unsubstantiated rumour that a hedge fund is going under. Interesting this causes panic yet the Socgen affair appears to have been brushed over despite futures volumes being a third higher than they should have been. I don't know how much they pay these so called experts to say this had no material impact with respect to the sell off.

cynic - 25 Jan 2008 16:53 - 744 of 21973

the charts on page 1 here will tell you quite a bit ..... also it is slightly concerning that FTSE did not manage to hold 1bove 5900/5910 albeit only a tad below

explosive - 25 Jan 2008 17:05 - 745 of 21973

I think it was 12371 where I closed my position on wall st yesterday evening, have checked the prices a few times today and seen little movement, at that point the market was up just over 100 points.

cynic - 25 Jan 2008 17:18 - 746 of 21973

i seem to have closed out long Dow at 12395 near the bell last night but went short this morning when indicator showed Dow at 12450, which i then closed at 12364

halifax - 25 Jan 2008 18:33 - 747 of 21973

Cynic well called! E

spitfire43 - 25 Jan 2008 18:37 - 748 of 21973

Just been watching a market report on sky, and some analyst from the city (forget who) saying Mondays sell off partly caused by society General covering positions after the massive fraud. And more interesting, suspects that Bank of France hadn't informed the ECB or the FED of the fraud, and believes if the FED had known they may not have lowered rates by so much.

I wouldn't expect any rate cuts next week from the Fed. I think FTSE is high enough for now, with more uncertain weeks and months ahead.

halifax - 25 Jan 2008 18:49 - 749 of 21973

Spitfire do you believe everything the little scribblers say? My bet is on .25% cut.

spitfire43 - 25 Jan 2008 18:56 - 750 of 21973

Not alot I must admit, but even without that I can't see another cut. Financials seem to be suffering again on DOW now.

halifax - 25 Jan 2008 19:05 - 751 of 21973

I must say I took a few chips off the table late afternoon, we may be heading for the final plunge on monday. A further rate cut is essential in order to reinforce the trend, I hope Mervyn is learning from all this as he drinks his Horlicks tonight.

maddoctor - 25 Jan 2008 19:48 - 752 of 21973

0.25 is being called

The dark side of interest rate cuts
And some Fed watchers say if the Fed delivers a cut, it'll be a sign that Chairman Ben Bernanke and the rest of the Open Market Committee are being bullied by the markets.

"The action this week raises more questions than it answered," said Barry Ritholtz, CEO of Fusion IQ, a quantitative research firm. "The Fed's mandate is to maintain price stability and promote economic growth, not backstop the equity markets. That's not their responsibility, but it seems to be what they're doing."

"If they do less than that(0.5 cut), there will be a widespread sense of disappointment or worse throughout the market and that's a headache the policymakers don't need at this point," said Tom Schlesinger, executive director of the Financial Markets Center, a think tank that focuses on the Fed.

Even Ritholtz agrees that the market would have a "hissy fit" if the Fed doesn't deliver another half-point cut on Wednesday and that the Fed can't afford to let that happen

cynic - 25 Jan 2008 19:58 - 753 of 21973

Dow tracking firmly south ..... blood on Monday, though RIO and/or XTA could provide some excitement

maddoctor - 25 Jan 2008 20:00 - 754 of 21973

you know as well as i do cynic , they can wipe out a 100 point drop in minutes

got some news on rio , xta ?

cynic - 25 Jan 2008 21:03 - 755 of 21973

no more than is in the public domain, unlike so many tarts who reckon they have the CEO's inside leg .... sorry, line!

Dow had a tricky day but just about managed to finish above 12200 where there is some kind of support .... still reckon London will open well down and Dow likely to be very nervous ahead of Fed meeting on Tuesday

to be honest, a further rate cut by Fed really does smell of brown trousers and may, slightly perversely, send the markets further south

stroreysj - 26 Jan 2008 03:03 - 756 of 21973

why is everyone so negative ?

Its healthy when a market takes a brief pause and profits are taken. No rally goes straight up. Fill Ya boots :-)

cynic - 26 Jan 2008 08:05 - 757 of 21973

do that now with shares and you will end filling them with cement and jumping off a bridge
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