Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

But why do they face hefty private medical bills Stan? Surely the great €uropean dream covers everybody regardless?


hilly #7420 nails it!

Because many have lived too long.

8-)

Max,

They face hefty bills because that's what private health is i.e. expensive and nothing to do with any specific Country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/british-airports-warn-flights-to-europe-will-be-grounded-aviation/

Flights to Europe could be suspended in a post-Brexit legal vacuum, airports warn

The UK’s largest airports, including Heathrow, Gatwick and Manchester, have warned the Government that flights to Europe could be suspended should it fail to reach a deal on aviation in the wake of Brexit.

The EU Open Skies agreement introduced in the Nineties currently provides uniform rules for the airlines and airports of member states and has helped cultivate a booming airport network allowing British holidaymakers to fly to hundreds of destinations on the continent - many at cut prices. One in two passengers handled by UK airports flies to an EU member state.

But ACI Europe, the European Region Airports Council International, which represents more than 500 airports in 45 countries, including 21 major hubs in the UK, said such freedom will not be maintained if the British government does not develop a strategy on “air connectivity” once outside the EU. It warned that legal issues could mean all flights between the EU and UK are grounded.

“The clock has been ticking since March and negotiations already began last month,” said the organisation’s director general, Olivier Jankovec. “Yet, we remain completely in the dark as to what will happen on April 1, 2019 and we have no idea how long this uncertainty will persist.

“The fact that the UK has yet to define a clear and detailed position as to what it wants - not just in terms of its new relationship with the EU, but also about how to transition there - is not helping.

“This only results in precious time being lost and potentially increases the risk of a no-deal scenario – which should be avoided at all cost, as it could ultimately result in flights between the UK and the EU being suspended.”

I want this and this and that
I want that and that and then this
oh well lets leave it for next week then .............


EU's Brexit Envoy Says Negotiations Making "Slow Progress"

BRUSSELS (Alliance News) - The European parliament's chief Brexit negotiator Guy Verhofstadt said on Wednesday that ongoing negotiations over the terms of Britain's departure from the bloc were making "slow progress in general."

Britain, a member of the EU since 1973, is the first country ever to leave the bloc in March 2019, following a referendum last year.

Negotiators from the European Commission and Britain are meeting in Brussels for the third time this week, but so far talks have yielded little result.

"Everybody is of the opinion that a no deal scenario is the worst outcome for everybody," Verhofstadt said, adding that the option of a disorderly exit seemed to be off the table.............

EU Brexit negotiators were left “flabbergasted” after their British counterparts launched a legal deconstruction of the so-called “Brexit bill” Wednesday as the Brussels talks headed for an increasingly acrimonious impasse, EU sources have told The Telegraph.
British negotiators spent three hours launching a painstaking, line-by-line rebuttal of the EU’s demands for €100bn divorce settlement to the barely concealed fury of EU negotiators.
"There was total amazement,” the EU source said, “Everyone was completely flabbergasted that this young man from Whitehall was saying that the EU's preparation on the financial settlement was 'inadequate'. It did not go down well."

How dare that "young man from Whitehall" speak a few home truths to these bully boys..and girls. Just tell them to stick their Brexit bill where Paddy stuck his ninepence, as my old mam used to say.

Longest goodbye in History.

More Doom and Gloom .

Theresa May secures Japanese pledge on post-Brexit trade deal


Leaders announce in Tokyo that two countries will seek to instantly replace EU trade deal with a copycat deal for UK



Theresa May has secured a much hoped-for formal commitment from Japan that both countries will seek to instantly replace an EU-Japan trade deal with a facsimile equivalent for the UK when Brexit happens.

The agreement, won during intensive talks with her Japanese counterpart, Shinzō Abe, was announced at a joint press conference in Tokyo.

It commits both nations to treating as an “immediate priority” the signing of a long-discussed economic partnership agreement, or EPA, between Japan and the UK.

The joint statement says: “As the UK exits the EU we will work quickly to establish a new economic partnership between Japan and the UK based on the final terms of the EPA.”

May hopes such instant copycat deals – termed “cut-and-paste Brexit” by opponents – could be reached with other nations, creating continuity and confidence. They would officially be interim but could last some years before bespoke UK deals are reached.


More: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/31/theresa-may-secures-japanese-pledge-on-post-brexit-trade-deal

Max,


Good to know the UK is escaping from the jurisdiction of the EU and signing up under the Japanese Court of Jurisdiction.

Heigh ho! says Anthony Rowley.

Mind, the words will be similar!

-=-=-=-=

Ps.

How much of London and the rest of the UK do the Japanese and Chinese already own?

What on earth are you talking about Fred?

btw, did you see Barnier at the press conference? He looked like he had dropped something smelly into his pants at that news breaking :-)

Barnier is a complete and utter c...t.

So how's your private healthdontcare subscriptions going Max?

Spain and France both provide a state healthcare system. Top ups are advised to expedite treatment, but they're not a necessity. If you pay into their systems, you're allowed to take out - it's not a difficult concept to understand, even for social retards like Stan.

I can't see why expats would want to return to the UK for healthcare.

I don't know about Spain, but have some idea about France.

In France you have to contribute to the general healthcare system at the point of use.

ie, to go to see a quack, you will need to cough up €22 per visit on the spot: If you are a Carte Vitale holder, you will be refunded appox €18 via your bank account.

The same applies for prescriptions, tests etc, cough up first and get a refund of a certain %tage later. This varies depending on what the presecritions/tests are for, some are free. You might only have to pay the difference between carte vitale and headline price.

Dread diseases are fully covered (afaik) by the gov. But everyone else pays.

Medical charges do not stop when you reach retirement age, which is why old folks still take out insurance to cover the extras.


There are no doubt a million others bits of info and wangles, but I don't know them.

That's right, Max.

The French state contribution is actually a percentage, about 70% I think, and it applies to GP visits, scans, tests, dentistry, etc. It's that element of the bill which tourists are able to reclaim with their EHIC. To get a CV, you need to contribute to the French social system for 4 years (as mentioned previously, a lesson to be learned for the UK there!).

Whilst I've never visited a French doctor, I'm told that you'll go along for an ingrowing toenail, and be treated to a full checkup. The focus is on prevention, and not bad value for the 6 € or 7 € that the patient contributes. The French healthcare system is considered to be one of the best in the world.

The point here is that the whole thing is inexpensive and perfectly affordable to locals and residents originally from elsewhere, and it's most definitely not a reason for expats to return to the UK. Furthermore, and I don't know whether it's true, but I'm sure I was told that even the top up insurance is provided by non-profit organisations.

Stan? a social retard? He hasn't improved that much IMO but if you say so. Carry on getting better Stanley and you will be allowed to go to away matches all on your own.
I wonder if he is still sat on the flyover??

That's another slip of the finger, iturama. I didn't mean to type social.

My bad. :o)