Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic

The problem is, that Tanker isn't exactly actually posting claptrap. It's true. But not in the volume of incidents, that he seems to imply. Surely not!

I think we would all like to see the local Imams spouting out strong criticism of atrocities. Problem is, that if they do, they are putting themselves right into the front of a prioritised firing line.

I would like to see the trashing of ALL religions, no matter what faith. However, 'the state' (in whatever country) always needs religion to preach good morality. Thus the state leaders always have to be shown to be supportive of religion (and hence 'good morality').

We still live in a society, where it is seen to be a morally and disgustingly bad thing for a person to declare that he is an atheist.

If a politician declared his atheistic beliefs in the States, then he would stand absolutely no chance of getting elected.

Most people in the UK now sorta kinda believe that the universe is 13.5 billion years old and came from 'Big Bang'. This is thanks to the pretty good scientific stuff on our TV of an evening.

That is NOT the case in the States. 42% have a Creationist View of Human Origins. More than 4 in every 10 Americans continue to believe that God created humans in their present form 10,000 years ago, a view that has changed little over the past three decades.

Half of Americans believe humans evolved, with the majority of these saying God guided the evolutionary process.

However, the percentage who say God was not involved is rising.

So getting rid of people's religious beliefs is extremely difficult. Anyhow, the end to 'religion' and its silly mysticisms will come.

eg. Life begins when you die. (but only if you belong to OUR religion)

Come on! Wise up people! Get real! Once your brain dies, that's it! Poof! You're dead and gone!

So the best thing 'the state' (ie. any government of any country) can do is to start inventing a new set of the Rules of Life and Living.
eg.
Rule 1. Do unto others as you would be done by.

Here's 50 more of them:

LIFE'S 50 GOLDEN RULES

Manners cost nothing
Treat others how you wish you be treated
Family comes first
Two wrongs don't make a right
Treasure friendship
Save some for a rainy day
Don't judge a book by its cover
Actions speak louder than words
As one door closes, another door opens
Laugh as often and as much as possible
All that glitters is not gold
Stay honest and keep your integrity
Keep an open mind
Never be afraid to make mistakes
You don't know what you've got until it's gone
Look after the pennies, the pounds will look after themselves
Only worry about things you can control
It's what's on the inside that counts
Never be afraid to shed a tear
Always have a smile on your face
Out of debt, out of danger
Don't speak with your mouth full
Listen before you speak
Try and see the good in everybody
The best things in life are free
Practice makes perfect
There is a light at the end of every tunnel
Make time for your favourite things
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
It's not what you know, it's who you know
Love unconditionally
Seize the day
You have to be cruel to be kind
If you don't believe in yourself, how can you expect others to
Forgive others so that you may be forgiven.
Always go with your gut instinct
Live everyday like it's your last
Be somebody's reason to smile
Don't burn your bridges
Time is a great healer
You only regret what you didn't do
Never let your fears get in the way
Don't count the days, make the days count
Strive for the best
Put your best foot forward
A picture paints a thousand words
The early bird catches the worm
Keep your head up and your heart strong
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer
If we all threw our problems in a pile and saw everyone else's, we'd grab ours back

TOP REGRETS FOR OVER 60'S

I spent too long worrying about silly things
I married the wrong person
I didn't travel enough
I should've tried harder at my education
I wish I saved more money for my retirement
I wish I stayed in touch with old friends
I didn't make enough time for the people I loved
I didn't save any money
I wish I had let myself be happier
I worked too much
I wish I have the courage to speak my mind
I didn't achieve my dream in life
I was in the wrong job for too long
I let my true love get away
I spent too long being angry at others
I struggled to forgive people
I spent too much money
I didn't make enough time for myself
I wish I got on better with my parents/siblings
I wish I could afford to retire earlier.

Whilst TANKER may be OTT with his rantings and some of his solutions, there is a great deal of truth in much of what he says. We all need to be more aware of what is actually happening to our country. There will come a time when the indigenous UK population will become the minority, will we/they be afforded the same consideration as we now afford them. I very much doubt it.
2517

we must all believe the mail and the express too; always absolute truth

glad i'm off to dubai on sunday evening

Don't forget your "down with islam" placard c, see how far you get.

Exec,

I was going to ask, what is it all about?

But then thought that it doesn't matter.

But then, perhaps, that is the excuse for the varieties of religions (beliefs, ideologies, goals, etc.).

A substitution for nothing.

Castro dies. A crook, a violent dictator with no redeeming features.

Jeremy Corbyn has praised Fidel Castro’s “heroism” and the changes he implemented in Cuba as his death was announced on Saturday.

Ken Livingstone, the former London mayor, praised Castro’s Cuba as a “beacon of light” in the region with better health care and education than other nearby countries.

In a defence of the communist revolutionary's leadership, Mr Livingstone blamed American aggression towards Castro for some of the problems seen in Cuba.

He also said anyone looking to live in Latin America during the Cold War would have picked Castro’s Cuba because of the quality of life.

The defence by Mr Livinsgtone, the left-wing former Labour politicians, contrasts with criticism from human rights groups over Castro’s authoritarian rule.

Critics have claimed he oversaw an oppressive regime which clamped down on freedom of speech and purged political rivals after taking power in the 1959 revolution.

Fidel Castro, a thorn in the side of the US, dies at 90

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

He ruled Cuba intransigently and with an iron grip on the populace. Tons of things were just 'outright banned' to enable him to continue to keep easier control.

I remember the 'Bay of Pigs' and how World War 3 was prevented with some last minute ballsy brinkmanship from Kennedy. No thanks to Fidel Castro who was definitely an enemy of the USA and the Free World and it was he who let the Russians put their nuclear missiles on Cuba, some mere 80 miles from the Florida coastline.

I'm glad he's gone and that the life of Cubans can continue to improve.

eg. Wi-fi hotspots would have been unheard of under Fidel Castro - but there are now more than 40 on the streets of the capital, Havana. Residents gathered around them to read more about his death and contact friends and relatives. Very few people have internet access at home. With undoubtedly now, many, many more of them to come.

What Cuba was really like under Fidel Castro

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/cuba-really-like-fidel-castro/

Yes the west was right(???) in their condemnation of Fidel Castro, and the
followers of the liberal west also applauded the invasion of Iraq to remove
the leader of that country, then there was Afghanistan, then the west fell
out of love with Gadafi and went on to bomb Libya in the west's determination
to remove Gadafi, and left the country in such a mess its now used as a
gateway to europe by hordes of economic iliterate immigrants..

Wonder who the next downtrodden country to be bombed/invaded in the west's
ideologically liberal pandering to save the world, no matter the cost..

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/26/503432822/clinton-campaign-supports-recount-efforts-in-battleground-states

what a waste of effort, time and money

Oh Dear.

How dear?

What a boring life you must lead Fred.

Waste of money for the donors but not for Stein. Nice earner. Who had heard of her before the election? Trump is right on that one. A scammer.

John Major has coined the term "the tyrany of the majority". Now I dont want to question the judgement of a man that considered getting his leg over an old trout like Edwina Currie was a good idea, but I thought the idea of politics was to gain a majority. Maybe he congratulated himself when he managed to pull off the biggest defeat in 150 years in the GE of 1997. Dork.

Dumbo.

I am surprised that you are awake again.

The ruling class don't DO democratic majority's if it goes against the
results THEY want, just like referendums in general...Thats why undemocratic
politicians don't like referendums full stop!!

The UKIP thread seems to have been removed?

But Hey Ho!...Paul Nuttall the new UKIP leader....

Fred1new - 27 Nov 2016 11:11 - 75133 of 75135

Dumbo.

I am surprised that you are awake again.
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I'm always awake because i'm not a drunk raving looney.

Dumbo,

I could have mistaken you for one.