Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Lol ... jitters in the market.

We would be in bloody free fall if anyone thought Corbyn even had the remotest chance of winning the election.

Didn't Churchill say that of Atlee?

Dil.

Your living in a past world.

Winston Churchill, Clement Attlee joke -Exchange
Winston Churchill was tossed out of government at the end of WWII while he was negotiating at Yalta, and replaced by Clement Attlee, a Labor socialist. Attlee made instant peace with Stalin, giving him eastern Europe, and instituted free healthcare paid for by over-taxing and taking over the British coal mines, steel companies, and railroads. The electric and gas companies, several major trucking companies, The Bank of England, The Thomas Cook’s Travel Agency, and several other companies that Labour thought were too big. The following joke exchange between Churchill and Attlee is supposed to have happened when they found themselves in the men’s room of Parliament

Churchill is supposed to have moved as far as possible from Attlee among the stalls.

“Feeling standoffish, Winston” Attlee is supposed to have said.

“No. “Frightened,” Churchill is supposed to have replied: “Whenever you see something large you try to nationalize it.”

It’s funny because ….. there is a fundamental similarity between personal freedom and economic freedom. Nationalize the business a person built with his sweat, friendships, and optimism, and you take away a lot of the person. The difference between social democrats and the rule of republican law is thus more than just who is better at running a railroad or electric company in terms of the trains running on time, it removes the chance of a person to be a person, and makes him or her part of an undifferentiated mass. A mass with equal comforts, and not the ability to succeed or fail as an individual.

There is merit in both sides as shown by the following exchange of speeches.

Clement Attlee, the last and perhaps greatest of mustached British PMs
Clement Attlee, the last and perhaps greatest of mustached British PMs

In May 1945, Winston Churchill said on radio: “I must tell you that a socialist policy is abhorrent to British ideas on freedom. There is to be one State, to which all are to be obedient in every act of their lives. This State, once in power, will prescribe for everyone: where they are to work, what they are to work at, where they may go and what they may say, what views they are to hold, where their wives are to queue up for the State ration, and what education their children are to receive. A socialist state could not afford to suffer opposition – no socialist system can be established without a political police. They (the Labour government) would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo.”

Attlee’s response the following day was: “The Prime Minister made much play last night with the rights of the individual and the dangers of people being ordered about by officials. I entirely agree that people should have the greatest freedom compatible with the freedom of others. There was a time when employers were free to work little children for sixteen hours a day. I remember when employers were free to employ sweated women workers on finishing trousers at a penny halfpenny a pair. There was a time when people were free to neglect sanitation so that thousands died of preventable diseases. For years every attempt to remedy these crying evils was blocked by the same plea of freedom for the individual. It was in fact freedom for the rich and slavery for the poor. Make no mistake, it has only been through the power of the State, given to it by Parliament, that the general public has been protected against the greed of ruthless profit-makers and property owners. The Conservative Party remains as always a class Party. In twenty-three years in the House of Commons, I cannot recall more than half a dozen from the ranks of the wage earners. It represents today, as in the past, the forces of property and privilege. The Labour Party is, in fact, the one Party which most nearly reflects in its representation and composition all the main streams which flow into the great river of our national life.” (The long Quotes are from Spartacus.edu, the joke is from The Past Laugh).

Churchill claimed, of Attlee that “there’s a lot less there than meets the eye.”

Look what happend.

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Don't you just love it when a plan comes together.

Tezza May gauged the Nation's pulse superbly, for the need to have a strong and stable Government to deliver their Brexit vote and free us from the inane and suffocating rules and regulations straightjacket and ankle shackles of the high cost, single market protection racket that is the appalling EU.

She wisely calculated that tactical voting(thanks Gina!), by over 4 million magnificent kippers(their job now nearly done), to fully protect their Brexit vote will effortlessly sweep her to a landslide majority in June.

Meanwhile, back on the Labour stump, Roberth Sharp the leader of the Labour group on Leicestershire council until he was unseated last week lamented “It has been tough on the doorstep,” . “All we have had thrown back at us is Brexit and bloody Corbyn.” Lol ! Labour were warned what would happen should they not only go against Brexit but compound that huge mistake by electing a natural tax and spend zealot as leader, instead of someone who could appeal to middle England like Chukkus uremoney!

Robert Sharp is clearly expressing what countless other Labour campaigners around the country are reporting post Brexit - a merciless torrent of bruising encounters with the electorate.

Tyrannosaurus Tezza's Brexit blue army is on the march - ignore it at your peril Mr Junker!

Tezza's Brexit Army feasted heartily on the UKIP carcass in the local elections - Corbyn's oven ready Labour carcass is shaping up nicely to provide the 7 course victory banquet in June !

Anyone watching the live feed of Macron giving his victory speech as they adjust his make up straightens his tie and practices his speech. Even Corbyn would have handled that better.

At least the French seem to be sensible and choosing the right candidate for the EU.

Big shame (Macron) he hates us and wants more Europe ,give them five years and she may win next time .

More anti . anti , anti , anything to make Britain look bad , go and live in France Freda . your input here has become a waste of time , back to the old days again .blah blah blah .

le pen would have been a seriously scary choice

And Micro isn't?

Macrons one of these 'leaders' now...

'Europe's Childless Leaders Sleepwalking Us to Disaster'

gatestoneinsitute.org/10306/childless-europe

Macron's victory may just extend the EU's life long enough for the UK to extricate itself before Euroland implodes

La Pen would have been a great choice , what are you so scared of cynic ?

Obama made a speech endorsing Macron , he's history now why doesn't he just stop interfering ,another Tony Blair type full of his own importance.

HMRC apparently estimate, that around £13bn of UK VAT - about 11% - goes unpaid each year.

The likes of Amazon and eBay could be made responsible for 'getting it in' even though they are not aware sellers using their platforms are avoiding or evading VAT collection.

However, as with all things of a similar nature, eg. preventing litter, getting the homeless off the streets, solving the plastic pollution problem, mending pot-holes and fixing the roads, there also does have to be the political will to really do something about it.

More on this quite important topic at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34650014

I suppose I'm just like the rest of the Internet shoppers out there. I just use available shopping tools, such as the 'Google Shopper', and search around for the cheapest source for what it is, that I want to buy.

Here's one hot topic, from my local rag, about illegally watching films and movies using Kodi, and how those discovered doing so might find themselves sitting in jail for up to 10 years:

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/kodi-users-who-illegally-watch-films-and-tv-shows-could-face-up-to-10-years-in-prison-1-7945918

It won't be long before Macron is up to his knees in farm manure. He has even less chance of taming the vested interests than the pillion rider had. He will have a lot to say about Brexit, Poland and Hungary however. I somehow can't take serious someone who decides to marry his mother. Weird. Before we know it, his popularity will be as low as the already forgotten one who couldn't even run for re-election.

You don't get 10 years for planning to bomb a train XL. But stealing from the gas meter...

I might be wrong here but if Le Penn had won and migrants decided to miss on France that would have put us no 1 target for them maybe , just a step too far at this time as we still have two years to go .

The irony... Sky - " Hollande and Macron are attending the VE ceremony at the Arc de Triomphe and then will go to meet the acknowledged leader in Europe, Angela Merckel".

Are they arm in arm saying we will pull through together .

so Obama proposed to a white man before he proposed to two white women then in desperation he married this woman. that about sums him up
he also did nothing to stop the war in Syria that should tell you is policy on isis

he is far from a descent person . he is also behind all the fake news in the usa