goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
aldwickkk
- 21 May 2017 20:55
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The older voter [ with a house and saving's ] , votes Tory. This will lose vote's, why didn't they wait until after the election. It goes against everything Thatcher stood for.
Fred1new
- 21 May 2017 21:00
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She is frightened about paying the bills which will come in after Brexit.
Haystack
- 21 May 2017 21:58
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Couldn't do it after Election as it wouldn't be in manifesto and would be voted down in Lords.
grannyboy
- 22 May 2017 07:26
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MaxK
"Why has she done it?"
Ask yourself what age group in the main voted for Brexit....Who will this death
policy effect the most?.
Most of us are aware that the establishment do NOT want to LEAVE the EU, the
fact that the tory's have this death tax in their manifesto gives sceptics like me
the idea that May wants to diminish their lead they have in an effort to get an hung
parliament, thus she would have an excuse and put the blame on the coalition party
to water down brexit to being meaningless..
hlyeo98
- 22 May 2017 08:21
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I will not vote Tory... taxing our loved ones for our death... disgusting.
VICTIM
- 22 May 2017 08:22
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This may be the problem with having this big lead at the start , they feel they can get away with policies that are unpopular , since the start they've made poor choices , now Labour are coming out with policies that sound good to certain groups . There's been a big rush to register and that suggests people want to make a point , if they carry on like this the Cons are in trouble .
grannyboy
- 22 May 2017 08:30
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ALL the news channels are pushing it being the last day for registration,
and the registration site will close at 11.59pm..Unless of course there is
a malfunction and the site goes down like it did before the referendum,
which allowed cameron to extend the registration availability by several
days..All in the attempt to get as many of those who were most likely to
vote 'remain' to register...
You've got to understand the deception the establishment WILL go too in
avoiding a brexit..
MaxK
- 22 May 2017 08:32
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cynic
- 22 May 2017 08:35
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bugger off fred :-)
the fact of the matter is that the country cannot afford free cradle to grave health care
without getting into contentious side-issues, while this is assuredly a serious asset grab that just may be used in part for nhs benefit, what other suggestions do you guys have?
btw, both my parents and and also in-laws were cared for at home in their last years, partly by their respective spouses, but also with expert outside help when required
most assuredly this was not paid for by the state
MaxK
- 22 May 2017 08:47
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The problem as I see it, is that the very people who the tories supposedly look out for are the main targets for this tax.
People who have worked and saved, bought a house etc, are now in the firing line.
The feckless will continue to draw on the state and the rich don't give a toss as they wont be effected.
I am at a loss to explain the logic behind the tory position.
Fred1new
- 22 May 2017 09:00
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cynic
- 22 May 2017 09:02
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because the tories are still likely to end up with something like a 40 seat majority
when one has a tight election, as is usually the case, all parties steer clear of contentious tax issues such as this
it still won't be an easy law to frame, for all sorts of fairly obvious reasons
Fred1new
- 22 May 2017 09:17
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Manuel,
Post 76953
Bugger off Jack.
Seems you believe in the "I am alright Jack" approach to other peoples' lives.
I think you are getting to be a little creaky.
Watch out they have care plans for you.
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Could scrap Trident, which will probably be obsolete by the time of introduction, and as a right winged banana state the UK won't need it.
cynic
- 22 May 2017 09:32
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so come on the fred ...... you're great at slagging off everyone and everything, so tell us how you would propose to fund nhs ..... scrapping trident might give you a one-off saving - let's ignore how it would decimate the scottish economy yet further - but what then?
certainly you (profess to) hate anything to do with inherited wealth, so why would you suddenly spring to its defense?
in this instance, it becomes a version of iht, and presumably not even enforceable until the 2nd partner has died, and that leaves aside how this tax might be mitigated or even circumvented by other perfectly legit means
Dil
- 22 May 2017 10:13
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Nothing wrong with the tax except the amount which can be kept is too low. I can see this being adjusted upwards before the law is passed.
Fred1new
- 22 May 2017 10:14
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"inherited wealth".
Interesting expression.
Reminds me of typical torrid party morality and its values:
"O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,"
and
"If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,"
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The wealth or of a country is produced by "all" of that country. (Not necessarily in easily observed ways. How that wealth is distributed is the problem.
Your luck is probably down to the family you were born into. Their luck is questionable.
8-)
cynic
- 22 May 2017 10:23
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fred - you weren't even skillful in evading the question ..... with all the practice you've had, i'ld have thought you could do much better
Fred1new
- 22 May 2017 10:35
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Manuel,
I can't afford the time to try to educate you.
"there's none so blind as those who will not see" comes to mind when somebody uses blindness to defend their position.
Get a better pair of glasses.
9¬)
VICTIM
- 22 May 2017 10:42
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Way above my head you two , ( c & F ) but you do chicken out Freda when the going gets tough . Denier and Bluffer .