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THE GOLD AND MINING THREAD. (XXX)     

goldfinger - 23 Aug 2004 10:09

A thread set up and dedicated to Gold and Mining stocks.

Gold could be set to bounce up again in the near future and throughout the autumn and winter. Higher oil prices and inflationary worries both here and in the states mean its an excelent hedge against the falling dollar and weaking markets.

Please post which stocks you feel may benefit other posters. Lets all try and make some money from Mining.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 20 Sep 2004 12:19 - 79 of 115

Could be an interesting investment, certainly one for the watch list.

Dig in for profit
Investment extra, Daily Mail
12 September 2004

OAL and investors have been uneasy bedfellows. But soaring energy prices are changing that, lifting shares in UK Coal from 120p to 165 1/2p in a year.


The industry's history is long and troubled. UK Coal's is short and troubled. It was called RJB Mining until Richard Budge quit in 2001.



The economics are being transformed. Imports once undercut home-produced coal hugely. Now imports cost 37 a tonne, while UK Coal has been selling at 30.



It lost 5.8m in the half to June, hit by a dispute and unsettling shifts in production. The full year should broadly break even. But from 2005, profitable new contracts kick in, including a five-year deal with the Drax power station in Yorkshire at close to the world price.



Charles Kernot, at broker Seymour Pierce, expects 2005 profits of nearly 30m for earnings per share* of 14.6p.



The real upside is property. Kernot has done an impressive analysis. UK Coal owns 49,000 acres. Kernot values the land at 200m, which could rise to 490m once redeveloped.


UK Coal's market value is just 240m. The other attraction is a 6% yield* on a well-underpinned dividend*.


Coal mining remains difficult and dangerous with quarrelsome unions. They will want their share of rising prosperity. But there should be enough to go round.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 29 Sep 2004 01:15 - 80 of 115

Right I havent beleived in investing directly in an oil company untill today and in the last few months have been investing in OIL SERVICE companys Hamworthy and Corac, you know the picks and shovels tale.

Anyway after doing a lot of research I really feel that SOCO INTERNATIONAL SIA as been left behind in the mass bull market on oil companies.

Forget, Burren, Regal, Dana and the rest in my opinion this is the one to be on.
JUst look at this report from the last results...................

Soco International PLC
02 September 2004

SOCO International plc

Interim Results for the six months ended 30 June 2004

SOCO is an international oil and gas exploration and production company,
headquartered in London. The Company has interests in Vietnam, Mongolia, Yemen,
Libya, Tunisia and Thailand, with production operations in Yemen, Tunisia and
Mongolia. SOCO today announces interim results for the half year ended 30 June
2004.

HIGHLIGHTS

Operating profit of 4.1 million (2003: 4.2 million)

Net profit of 2.0 million (2003: 2.5 million)

Earnings per share of 2.9p (2003: 3.6p)

Cash balance of 26.7 million at half year end

Finalised the sale of an interest in ODEX creating a consortium of SOCO
(34%), Oilinvest (46%) and Gazprombank (20%) in the special purpose
entity to progress initiatives in Libya and other countries

Continued reinterpretation of existing 3D seismic and acquisition of 650
sq km of new 3D seismic in Vietnam prior to commencement of drilling in
Q1 2005

3D seismic programme completed in Mongolia with two wells drilled, both
apparent discoveries, and a third well spudded

First ever deviated Basement well drilling in East Shabwa in Yemen



Ed Story, President and Chief Executive of SOCO, said:

'Following an extended period of quiet preparation, the release of interim
results coincides with the commencement of a very active drilling programme for
SOCO, one that I believe has company transforming potential'

2 September 2004

ENQUIRIES:
SOCO International plc Tel: 020 7457 2020 (today)
Ed Story, President and Chief Executive Tel: 020 7747 2000 (thereafter)
Roger Cagle, Deputy Chief Executive
and Chief Financial Officer
College Hill Tel: 020 7457 2020
Tony Friend
Nick ElwesENDS.

Youl be sorry if you miss the boat on this one.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 29 Sep 2004 02:02 - 81 of 115

Seems like someone from another board agrees and puts forwards these points for buying..............................

So.....why buy more Soco now?

Four inter-related reasons:
1) Newsflow is now very much in sight on several fronts. None of it has yet emerged though, so analysts have yet to revisit their old views and recommendations. There was, and indeed remains, a chance to get in before serious interest picks up again.
2) There is, IMO, a decent chance of some very large price rises within the next 6 months, accompanied by increased downside protection. Once newsflow starts, the shares will come back onto institutional radar screens - you can wait for it to emerge, or you can speculate now at what I think will prove to be a lower price -perhaps much lower!
3) The market thinks there is nothing happening and has gone to sleep on the prospects. You can see this in the broadly sideways drift and very low volumes on most days [until this week]. They are wrong. Yemen and perhaps Mongolia should provide some near-term good news.
4) The time to buy is when no-one else seems very interested.ENDS.

Looks very interesting and could be a cracker of a stock.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 29 Sep 2004 11:01 - 82 of 115

Up she goes , up 13.5p, and looks to have plenty of legs. Will make a seperate thread for this one.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 29 Sep 2004 16:29 - 83 of 115

Soco now up 22p, looks strong.

cheers GF.

aldwickk - 01 Oct 2004 08:42 - 84 of 115

Goldfinger

Can you reply to a post on the NML thread, please.

goldfinger - 02 Oct 2004 01:01 - 85 of 115

Heres a system to sift out the Gold winners from the losers................

If gold is a low risk investment during the Kondratieff winter, which shares, after bullion itself, should we be buying - gold producers or exploration companies? Let's examine the 'pros' and 'cons' of each of them.

Gold Producing Companies:
Pros:
-Investment grade. Large Market Caps-appropriate for investment funds.
-Cash flow via production.
-Excellent liquidity.
-Share prices generally rise faster than the price of gold itself.

Cons:
-Depleting their resources through production. Difficulty finding sufficient reserves to maintain production at current levels; i.e., Newmont 7.2 million ounces p.a.
-Hierarchal management-slow to make decisions.
-Exploration subject to committee review and budgetary constraints.
-Limited exploration since 1998.
-Only a small number of companies to choose from.

Junior Exploration Companies:
Pros:
-Responsible for 70% of discoveries.
-Growing their gold.
-Quick response management.
-Innovative geologists; prepared to see the unconventional.
-The onset of the Kondratieff winter suggests the largest bull market in gold in the entire cycle. In that environment share prices rise faster than those of their conservative counterparts.
-A major discovery positively impacts the share prices of most exploration companies.
-An ability to release regular news in progress.
-Management usually owns a large stake in the company and has a vested interest in achieving positive results on the behalf of all shareholders.

Cons:
-Management under suspicion-not trusted.
-Viewed as very high risk investments.
-Investors don't understand news releases, because they are usually not geologists-can't follow a discovery in progress.
-Poor liquidity; small market caps-not suitable for most investment funds.
-Difficulty in raising money; major dilution at low share prices.

Evaluating Juniors:
The key is Management. The Long Wave approach, developed by my team at Canaccord is subjective but still useful.

Points System:
Resource -
50 points- Defined Resource
35 points- Discovery
15 points- Grass Roots.
Management - Max 50 points
Properties - Max 35 pts
Promotion - Max 15 pts
Blue Sky - Max 25 pts
Political Risk - Max 30 pts
Market Cap - Max 30 pts
Shares Outstanding - <5million - Max 10 points

I much prefer investing in juniors versus seniors in a gold bull market, because:
- There is significantly more upside price potential, following a discovery.
- Easy to be selective. There are plenty to choose from. Follow the management.
- Exciting to follow progress; discovery-resources-reserves.
- Management is usually dedicated to enhancing shareholder value. It wins, too.

So there you have it, I believe that gold at this point in the Kondratieff cycle is a low risk investment and good junior gold mining shares are arguably an even lower risk than their senior producing counterparts. Now go and buy some. However, you must remember to buy management.

For a detailed presentation of my interpretation of the Kondratieff Cycle visit my website www.thelongwaveanalyst.ca.

http://www.thelongwaveanalyst.ca/

http://www.thelongwaveanalyst.ca/

cheers GF.

moneyplus - 02 Oct 2004 15:11 - 86 of 115

I hold LMI and AFE. I am tempted by FDI and Galahad Gold -- what ones do you now favour as we have to select ones to back? cheers MP

aldwickk - 02 Oct 2004 15:33 - 87 of 115

FDI and TSG

moneyplus - 02 Oct 2004 15:35 - 88 of 115

Thanks aldwikk

goldfinger - 02 Oct 2004 16:10 - 89 of 115

Im in AFE and have been tempted by TSG and Centamin (who I rate as the best explorer of them all)but I feel you should buy the junior producers first with POG at these levels and then move onto the explorers as POG moves higher.

Producers I am in, avocet, Bema, Peter Hambro, and Golden Prospect. Ive also opened a new position in Cambrian, but that is a mining house, I suppose Golden Prospect is as well but it seems to go along with the price of POG.

cheers GF.

aldwickk - 02 Oct 2004 19:59 - 90 of 115

GF.
FDI is a producer.

goldfinger - 02 Oct 2004 22:39 - 91 of 115

Great.

Sorry but hope all you guys ok.

cheers GF.

scotinvestor - 03 Oct 2004 01:20 - 92 of 115

i bought Oxus and Avocet last Dec. Avocet now is starting to move upwards and think it will got 1 plus in short term.

I still believe in Oxus although i'm well down at present. Anyone have any views on OXS

Andy - 03 Oct 2004 12:09 - 93 of 115

scotinvestor,

A friend of mine rang me last weeK to say he'd read that Oxus have more "problems" with the local governement.

I have not read it for myself, but these little rumours seem to emerge from time to time, and go back to the time of Oxus having difficulty obtaining an export licence for it's first gold pour.

As we know, it was eventually sorted out, but it did raise some concerns at the time, and subsequent rumours resulted in the price falling back to it's present level.

I sold as Oxus fell in order to bank the profit, and although I like the company, have not bought back yet due to these nagging little rumours.

I do hold Avocet, and I agree with you that 1 seems likely by the end of the year, if not sooner.

I intend to increase my Avocet holding as soon as I release funds elsewhere.

goldfinger - 04 Oct 2004 01:50 - 94 of 115

Interesting interview on Gold.

http://www.financialsense.com/Experts/2004/Bolser.html

cheers GF.

john50 - 04 Oct 2004 12:31 - 95 of 115

Any thoughts on AFG goldfinger.

goldfinger - 04 Oct 2004 12:36 - 96 of 115

Just stick with it. Looks to me like the US budget deficit will bring the dollar down and POG up. I also think we are entering the asian wedding season so physical demand for gold should be increasing.

cheers GF.

john50 - 04 Oct 2004 12:47 - 97 of 115

Thanks GF.

gallick - 04 Oct 2004 12:54 - 98 of 115

>>GF

The "asian wedding season"! Well I never - learn something every day!

rgrds
gk
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