Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Good cartoon Fred .. Someone must be getting worried about the MogSter :-)

who is the most racial white or black in reply to last, grenfell. who has done good
& most work in london , also honest with promises rail fares ect sidiq or goldsmith
grenfell could have been avoided with a plumbing job sprinklers them that vandle
shot or hanged in square . thats enough, said to much already.

Is that Tanker again?

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Interesting points made on TV this week was about the effect of water on heated aluminium and its "possible" effects on the Grenfell fire.

Sorry blackbird but that didn't come over very clear ,. well to me anyway , can you explain .

Why does black bird bye bye spring to mind ?

Getting worried about H/S's absence.. picture above of his favourite Jezzer usually gets him back 😂

them that stop sprinklers, being installed. just stupid . sidiq / goldsmith london has
a small white population. hence the result of voting bias.

Fire brigade said sprinklers not needed. The flats are supposed to be isolated and fires burn themselves out. Cladding caused the spread not lack of sprinklers.

He's back as predicted 🙂

We need some confirmation , eh like capital letters .

Good to see the tory party is back to normal and prepared.

" Obsession " by Freda , available at your local pharmacy .

Vicky Darling,

You seem to be guilty of projection.

A condition recognised in worn out Ukippers and Brexiters.

Just take a long look at your posts the last five years , or maybe longer , yes longer , seems projection on my part wrong word mate .

Can I add stalking characteristics to your description?

Unfathomable is what i said and by gum you really are . Oh and puddled too .

Tut tut V.

london fire brigade, = no sprinklers i don't think so false information .
water has an alarm system .

Let the inquiry run and hopefully the whole truth will come out and lessons learnt.
Current truth is that the fire spread via the cladding. It is also true that all buildings over 30m built since 2007 must have sprinklers installed. There is no requirement for retrofitting older buildings unless "a fundamental change is made to the structure or use of the building". That may change as a result of the inquiry. It seems sensible to me that retrofitting be carried out on all high rises wherever reasonably possible.
The original fire source would likely have been contained with sprinklers. However, we all have 20:20 hindsight and it is probably unfair to blame the council leaders unless specific advice to install them was given by the Fire and Rescue Services or council safety officers.

That seems sensible.

Health and safety regulations are improved post lousy accidents/incidents. Some foreseeable others unfortunately not.

My guess the draught effect of cladding had not been thought of.

But sprinklers, may have or probably would have prevented the inferno.