Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fire brigade said sprinklers not needed. The flats are supposed to be isolated and fires burn themselves out. Cladding caused the spread not lack of sprinklers.

He's back as predicted 🙂

We need some confirmation , eh like capital letters .

Good to see the tory party is back to normal and prepared.

" Obsession " by Freda , available at your local pharmacy .

Vicky Darling,

You seem to be guilty of projection.

A condition recognised in worn out Ukippers and Brexiters.

Just take a long look at your posts the last five years , or maybe longer , yes longer , seems projection on my part wrong word mate .

Can I add stalking characteristics to your description?

Unfathomable is what i said and by gum you really are . Oh and puddled too .

Tut tut V.

london fire brigade, = no sprinklers i don't think so false information .
water has an alarm system .

Let the inquiry run and hopefully the whole truth will come out and lessons learnt.
Current truth is that the fire spread via the cladding. It is also true that all buildings over 30m built since 2007 must have sprinklers installed. There is no requirement for retrofitting older buildings unless "a fundamental change is made to the structure or use of the building". That may change as a result of the inquiry. It seems sensible to me that retrofitting be carried out on all high rises wherever reasonably possible.
The original fire source would likely have been contained with sprinklers. However, we all have 20:20 hindsight and it is probably unfair to blame the council leaders unless specific advice to install them was given by the Fire and Rescue Services or council safety officers.

That seems sensible.

Health and safety regulations are improved post lousy accidents/incidents. Some foreseeable others unfortunately not.

My guess the draught effect of cladding had not been thought of.

But sprinklers, may have or probably would have prevented the inferno.

Blade runner is very good. Not many of these make me smile. This one hits the nail on the head. :)

CD yes I agree. Cracking cartoon nice to see one without bile dripping from it. (Mat apart)

Terry Downes snuffs it, very much a fighter rather then a boxer http://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2017/10/06/terry-downes-boxer-obituary/

The original Blade Runner is a 1982 (I think) masterpiece !....the style of filming was years ahead of its time...(so was Alien 1979)...haven't seen the new Blade Runner....

1982 ... brilliant film, the mood sets it apart from the rest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner

Oh Dear!