cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
BigTed
- 30 Jan 2008 10:30
- 795 of 21973
Currently cant make head nor tail of new CFD account, would poss like to short the DOW later, anyone else use TDW...? help???!!!
halifax
- 30 Jan 2008 10:32
- 796 of 21973
All US banks/investment houses are vulnerable after their massiv writedowns takeover activity is likely, before long Citigroup could well be a target.
explosive
- 30 Jan 2008 10:38
- 797 of 21973
I'd wait as shorting DOW today very risky, shares like Experian are doing very well and their core business is the banking sector suggesting somethings cooking. Look back and you'll see that the increase in interest rates made the credit house share price fall, a lower rate could indicate more credit coming back onto markets.... IMHO..
spitfire43
- 30 Jan 2008 14:32
- 798 of 21973
Hi Big Ted - When you have the trading screen on TDW it will open in the popular share screen. Dow is shown, and can press either the trade button or the order button. I find it best to use Order, if you wish to short you can click in the Limit Sell. Then you can set the price you wish to enter the market, followed by your stop/loss, then your target price in the next box. Then press the place button and the order will be in the system waiting for the price to move your way.
You can change the stop/loss or limit prices at any time using the edit button, when you open active orders or open positions.
Be careful today and if you are going to trade, I wouldn't leave a position open while the FED are making the interest decision. (very risky)
Good Luck
cynic
- 30 Jan 2008 14:46
- 799 of 21973
very very tricky isn't it ..... i have current profitable shorts in SOLA and AL. but am wondering whether or not it would be prudent to take profits in some of my long positions
BigTed
- 30 Jan 2008 14:47
- 800 of 21973
thanks for that, as i figured to be fair, but couldn't see if i could use a guaranteed stop, appears not???
explosive
- 30 Jan 2008 15:36
- 801 of 21973
I have no open positions today, FTSE trading in a small range as will DOW untill news breaks... Have taken all profits as not worth the risk IMO should no further reduction come, also 25 basis points will do little for confidence...
BigTed
- 30 Jan 2008 15:37
- 802 of 21973
Ok so i know i should be asking someone at TDW, but does each order always require 10% of total placed, cleared in account, cos i haven't transferred any across yet, just tried a dummy run and it didn't suggest how much the order would cost me...
Also when using trade button typically to deal on DOW CFD, when it asks you number of CFD's? what do they cost? is it same as points? ie around 12440p per CFD at present? sure thats wrong!!!
cynic
- 30 Jan 2008 16:58
- 803 of 21973
would it not be nice to have accurate foresight, even if only for this evening ..... one could then make a bundle on the Dow as it gyrates wildly, as i am sure it will ..... i cannot even begin to envisage to where it will peak or trough ... could easily be 200 points in either direction from the present, or even both
cynic
- 30 Jan 2008 17:03
- 804 of 21973
if TDW work similarly to IG, then you will need to deposit some funds with them .... if you have been trdaing with them for a long time so you have a history, TDW may allow you to run a pre-determined amount of margin debt
cynic
- 30 Jan 2008 17:27
- 805 of 21973
may have a little play with Dow using guaranteed stops
explosive
- 30 Jan 2008 17:37
- 806 of 21973
Will be playing Wall St also tonight Cynic, I think I'm set for a very bumpy evening..... Because of volitility though will trade without stop losses in place as I've experienced plenty of times when the downward/upwards peak touched my stop loss and sold/bought, very annoying spikes like these.....
Big Ted, I use a spreadbetting account to play longs/shorts, unfortunatly never placed a CFD and don't hold this type of account.
cynic
- 30 Jan 2008 17:49
- 807 of 21973
may i suggest that the only safe way to do this is with guaranteed stops - IG charges an extra 4 points in and ditto out, + usual $15 commission x 2 per contract - contract = $10 per point.
without guaranteed stops, market move could easily miss your "ordinary" stop by miles.
are you looking to go long for now?
spitfire43
- 30 Jan 2008 18:23
- 808 of 21973
Hi Big Ted I believe you must have 10% of the position in your account when dealing with shares, but 5% with indices. Example if you take position of 10 points on DOW this would be $120,000 worth, but the required in the account is I think 5% eg $6,000. Minimum points to place starts at 3.
maddoctor
- 30 Jan 2008 19:00
- 809 of 21973
i am shocked , he has done what they told him again
just in time for the punters to rush out and buy their 50 inch flat screen tvs for the superbowl on cheap credit
2517GEORGE
- 30 Jan 2008 19:30
- 810 of 21973
Market likes it, atm
2517
cynic
- 30 Jan 2008 19:49
- 811 of 21973
not rabidly enthusiastic, but sufficiently so for me to bank a little profit on Dow.
as it looks to me that Dow will stay ahead until close, have now open FTSE long
cynic
- 30 Jan 2008 21:01
- 812 of 21973
damn fool .... serves me right ..... gave back my Dow profit on FTSE (now closed) as did not think i needed to watch
hlyeo98
- 30 Jan 2008 22:04
- 813 of 21973
Dow has created a needle shaped graph this evening...urgh
maddoctor
- 30 Jan 2008 22:06
- 814 of 21973
commentators do not like it - again citing pandering to Wall St