Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Jeremy Corbyn allies plot to oust 50 Labour MPs

Secret hitlist of moderates for deselection



Caroline Wheeler and Andrew Gilligan

January 21 2018, 12:01am,
The Sunday Times




Up to 50 Labour MPs are on a deselection hitlist drawn up by left-wing supporters of Jeremy Corbyn, it has been claimed.

Moderate Labour MPs have been warned that Corbyn’s allies want centrist candidates replaced with more left-leaning ones.

A Labour Party whip has been privately telling moderate MPs not to rock the boat or they could face deselection, amid fears that up to 50 will be targeted if rule changes are pushed through this autumn.

Chris Leslie, the former shadow chancellor, and Hilary Benn, the former shadow foreign secretary, are believed to top the list. Angela Eagle, who challenged Corbyn for the leadership in 2016, and her sister Maria Eagle, the former shadow culture secretary, are also thought to be vulnerable.


More if you sign up: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/jeremy-corbyn-allies-plot-to-oust-50-labour-mps-87bkrv7l7

I wonder if they will be paid off with peerages like the neo-con lot do.

max - surprised fred had not already posted that cartoon (from ST) given his addiction for so doing .... perhaps he didn't like the truth behind it, which is another of his favourite lines or inferences when others don't appreciate his postings

strangely, fred also declined to comment further to my post 79933
do you rate her (ruth davidson) as a serious politician?
she certainly seems to have shredded labour in scotland

Driving over a bridge across the English Channel, so as to help motorists get from England to France in their cars, has been one of this last week's main topics.

And of course, it does raise an important consideration.....

Matt is always entertaining

Cynic
I suspect the reason Fred did not answer your question is because, whilst he does not like the neo cons, as he likes to call them, he dislikes the English even more, as exemplified by his constant use of "Little Englander" as an insult.

This could be described as racist but it may be that he was given a bad time by someone English in his formative years and he has never got over it, despite choosing to spend his declining years in this sweet and pleasant land.

What ever the reason Ruth Davidson is Scottish not English and that puts her way above anyone English.

Martini,

Some of the English when they are trained properly are quite good.

-=-=-=-

Davidson.

I think the tory party's "success" in Scotland is complicated.

Also, think the "values" of the "labour" in Scotland and the SNP are very similar, also their positions have to be considered in relation to Scottish independence.

Personally, I don't her see as appealing to the English electorate.

ruth davidson
first question was whether or not you see her as a serious politician
you have yet to answer that




next question is why you think she would not appeal to the english - broaden that please! - to uk electorate

certainly the tories in scotland under her leadership routed labour, for whatever reasons you might now like to rationalise that result

as RD does not come from what is percieved (accurate or not) as the typical tory mould or background, she might appeal at that level
also, she can enter any leadership contest with a proven record of bringing in a result

Manuel,

DYOH.

Your opinion is your own.

Although, I have a brother living in Edinburgh we don't seem to discuss local politics and I have little knowledge of working day Scottish politics.

Try reading longer articles in the Guardian, Observer or listening to the Scottish media,

oh dear ..... it's always the same fred; you're never willing to give a straight answer to a straight question posed ....... scottish politics per se do not really come into the equation here .....

you should try some contemplaton of your emotional shortcomings ..... you might then glean some insight as to why you feel compelled to be so supercilious towards others

btw, i already know my own opinion re RD

You are entitled to your opinion.

I think you are guilty of projection.

Besides, you seem to me to have ADS and unlikely to comprehend a fuller answer.

It would be waste of time trying to help you.

Your age has caught up with you.

I don't like Ruth Davidson.

fred - i know you love being a supercilious knob, which role you have certainly perfected ..... nevertheless, you refusal to give a straight answer to a straight question goes to show what a waste of time it is to try to have even a half-way sensible discussion with you


dil - out of curiosity, why not?

Sod it, it wont come up, but worth a look..


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/22/the-billionaires-guide-to-surviving-global-warming-with-ian-the-climate-denialist-potato

From the referendum thread
cynic - 17 Jan 2018 13:47 - 8498 of 8506

''have you guys not yet learned that fred will always argue that black is white, and if you then agree, he'll change tack and say no, white is black''

Someone needs to take their own advice

am i really that bad? ....... sorry :-(
to be honest, i thought i was pretty consistent, even if the observations are rubbish

She's a remoaner cynic and comes across as arrogant to me.

at least you have a reason and are happy to state it, unlike fred who won't actually voice anything

at this juncture, it should be remebered that Ruth Davidson was fighting for seats excluysively in scotland ..... scotland, for whatever reasons, voted overwhelmingly to stay in eu
it follows that RD (currently) has an obligation to fight that corner, just as TM has an obligation to fight to remove us from eu, for that was the countrywide majority view

what i like about RD is that she is cast from a very different mold from the perceived typical tory mp or even (potential) leader ...... that can be no bad thing