goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 16 Feb 2018 13:36
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Haze,
Have you started going to First Aid classes yet?
Fred1new
- 16 Feb 2018 13:56
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Cleansing of the wound area, clean dressing and support stockings or equivalent and common sense.
And Haze is a bright chap and should be aware of secondary infection and how to proceed.
I would have thought he had private insurance to cover such events in order to avoid being a burden on the NHS.
jimmy b
- 16 Feb 2018 14:49
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No VIC thanks for asking but having all sorts of problems ,maybe another op on the head at some point .
VICTIM
- 16 Feb 2018 15:10
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Well all the best , hope it goes well .
VICTIM
- 16 Feb 2018 15:27
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Is it possible Freda has hit new lows , so any relative of ours is not to get any Medical attention no matter how potentially serious , despite being told by the NHS to see your doctor . Now it's OK for any freeloader to turn up with a cold and get treatment , his concern for said people is admirable , that is until he goes to France for his hols when he evades their presence by going on a detour to avoid them .
hilary
- 16 Feb 2018 15:36
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I'm all for you seeing a doctor, Vicky. In fact, the sooner you make an appointment, the better.
Maybe he could prescribe a course of Xylophene for the rotten sawdust between your ears?
PS. I know you like to think you can spell, but there's no 'e' in premadonna.
VICTIM
- 16 Feb 2018 15:56
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But there's two els in BOLLOKS .
cynic
- 16 Feb 2018 16:05
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and there's also "red" in "fred"
Haystack
- 16 Feb 2018 17:23
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Fred1new
- 16 Feb 2018 18:30
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Is tory central office paying for the script?
cynic
- 17 Feb 2018 09:13
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the story (headlines in telegraph this morning) is no more likely to be false than true
if it related to some high-rank tory mp, i'm sure fred would be proclaiming about it from his dacha roof, or failing that, his soapbox in cambridge or wherever he skulks
Haystack
- 17 Feb 2018 10:17
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Fred1new
- 17 Feb 2018 10:22
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Reminds me of Halifax and the Fascists like Oswald Mosley who learnt their trade in the tory party.
Or perhaps the Rothermere or Mail effect on the Neo-cons in the tory party, which is being led astray by Trump-like rednecks.
Mind Haze and Cynic should feel at home.
Chris Carson
- 17 Feb 2018 10:27
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Day after day
alone on a hill.........
Corbyn, McDonnel and Abbott in charge of the country REALLY?!!!
In your dreams Freda :0)
cynic
- 17 Feb 2018 10:28
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oswald mosley wouldn't have needed to join any party ..... incipient nazi sympathisers were rife throughout the country, from king edward down
indeed, it lies not far beneath the surface even now, though coloured skin now attracts opprobrium more than semites .... of course russia (and poland) also had a long history of vicious pogroms against the jews
Fred1new
- 17 Feb 2018 10:32
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Probably fits in with Cynic's and Haze's ideal views for the tories and fellow con artists.
Rulers of the world unite.
"Theresa May and the Conservative Party’s Alarming White Fascist Aspirations
8.10.16
Theresa May, Britain's Prime Minister, making her first speech as PM. I slightly edited the banner behind her.It was always worrying that Theresa May, on being handed the leadership of the Conservative Party, unelected by either the Party or, more crucially, the British public, was immediately positioned as a safe pair of hands by the corrupt mainstream media, an illusion that was widely embraced by ordinary members of the general public. Immediately, it became apparent that a strong-looking woman in charge of the Tory party — and suddenly the ghost of Margaret Thatcher was back amongst us — appeals not just to Tory boarding school inadequates, but also to the British people in general, as a result, I believe, of the deep damage caused to the British psyche by centuries of class division and Puritanism.
Metaphysically, Theresa May was the only senior official left standing after the brutal denouement of the EU referendum — with David Cameron gone, George Osborne doomed, Boris Johnson disgraced for having campaigned to win something he didn’t even believe in, and Michael Gove just plain creepy — but that didn’t mean she should have been anointed to lead, after the last irritant, Andrea Lettsom, was disposed of.
As I hope I made clear in my article, As Theresa May Becomes Prime Minister, A Look Back at Her Authoritarianism, Islamophobia and Harshness on Immigration, she is not a safe pair of hands at all, but an alarming authoritarian, with a track record on counter-terrorism that is dangerously Islamophobic — remember her obsession with deporting Abu Qatada, rather than putting him on trial if he had committed a crime (see here and here), remember how she crowed about extraditing a Muslim British citizen with Asperger’s to the US, but refused to extradite a white British citizen with Asperger’s (see my Al-Jazeera article here), and remember how she stripped British citizens in Syria of their citizenship so that they could be killed in US drone attacks (see here and here).
As a result of the above, it is no surprise that removing Britain’s human rights obligations has become one of the priorities of May’s government, even though it is idiotic, as I explained in my 2015 article, What Does It Say About the Tories That They Want to Scrap Human Rights Legislation? At the time, however, it looked considerably more difficult than it does now, because withdrawing from European human rights legislation (the European Convention on Human Rights, written in 1949-50, and with a prominent role in its drafting taken by the British Conservative MP and lawyer Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe, who had been a prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trials) means withdrawing from the Council of Europe, and EU membership is dependent on CoE membership. So we leave the EU and we can also join the dictatorship Belarus as the only countries in the whole of Europe (as conceived in its widest sense) that do not subscribe to European human rights legislation.
The bonfire of rights continued at the Tories’ conference last week, with promises to exempt soldiers from pesky human rights legislation, via Theresa May’s chilling promise that “we will never again in any future conflict let those activist left wing human rights lawyers harangue and harass the bravest of the brave: the men and women of our armed forces.”
While British soldiers continue to face calls for them to be held accountable for torture and extrajudicial murder in Iraq, May’s plans — conceived with the not entirely bright defence secretary Michael Fallon — are deeply worrying.
Beyond the assault on human rights, the Tories’ conference was also notable for Theresa May, nominally a pro-Remain MP, enthusiastically endorsing an extremist Leave position, and presenting the UK as a bastion of white isolationism — with exceptions made for supportive non-white citizens, and, of course, any foreigner with money, whatever their colour.
For Politics.co.uk, Ian Dunt described the change in his article, “The Tories have finally become UKIP,” noting how, after May “confirmed on Sunday that she would pursue a hard Brexit and pull Britain out of the single market, [w]hat even 12 months ago would have been considered economically insane is now a cosy consensus.” As he also explained, May’s “hard Brexit” policy “actually goes further than that which Nigel Farage’s allies once held in the past. Even Aaron Banks, the aggressively eurosceptic donor to UKIP, not so long ago supported the Norway option [in which Norway has access to the single market but no vote over EU rules], which apparently now is some sort of wishy washy betrayal of the democratic will.”
Fred1new
- 17 Feb 2018 10:34
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I am beginning to understand Manuel and Hazy One's positions.
8-)
cynic
- 17 Feb 2018 10:56
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sidestepping as usual by fred
i really do recommend that you read Red Famine
inter alia it will remind you of the disaster that collectivism brought in its wake in Bolshevik Russia ....... this was not just confined to agriculture but also industry
in a nutshell, because capitalism, even on a tiny scale like a smallholder farmer, was stamped on, no one saw any point in working hard as the state just gobbled everything ..... this attitude remained for surely 60/80 years
could we find such a situation developing in uk? ...... assuredly so
though privatised railways (for example) leave much to be desired, they were certainly pretty awful when in public ownership, being hopelessly over-manned and strike-prone ..... ditto ship building and steel
and yes, much of the management was (and perhaps is) as culpable in its own way