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schiff
- 23 Jan 2006 21:41
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May I recruit the experts on here for some advice please!
Had Haas managed to hang on and beat Federer this morning, I would have been in clover - see later. Federer's game seemed to go to pieces in the 3rd and 4th sets and the vibes coming from him weren't good. Conversely Haas really seemed up for it and his desire seemed greater than Federer's. Sadly (for me) class told in the end plus a dodgy call - which I didn't see played back by Eurosport. Haas a bit unlucky.
But to me it did show that Federer isn't the perfect machine he has looked so far.
To the point. I am currently holding two bets for the outright winner - Nalbandian at 200 to 10 and Davydenko at 298 to 2. Nalbandian's odds are currently about half that and Davydenko's about the same (imagine what they would have been had Haas won - see what I mean about the clover?).
I don't want to green up as for 12 I want a bit of fun and I want to maximise my return. One way is just to let them run but if I was in this position and Nalbandian was playing Federer in the final, I could perhaps ensure a win of 70 to 80 whatever happened. But there's a longish way to go.
OK - what would your technique be over the next two rounds to achieve something like a decent win at the end of it all?
Scripophilist
- 23 Jan 2006 21:43
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Sven to leave England role after World Cup. Just announced.
Fundamentalist
- 23 Jan 2006 21:57
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Schiff
Just to put it into context, Federer in the first 2 sets (especially the second) was awesome, Haas has played well against him recently and prob had as good as chance of beating him as anyone imo. When the chips were down, Federers true class showed (on all accounts the line call was right by 7mm lol).
The big problem you have with the Davydenko bet is he plays Federer tonight (midnight start on Eurosport) and personally cant give him a chance in this game - to be honest id be surprised if he wins a set. It maybe worth putting a lay off trade in the winner market at a level you would hope Davydenko to get to if he gets ahead
With regard to the Nalbandian bet, ultimately to win the tournament he will have to beat Santoro tonight (he's a 1.22 fav to do so) then in the semis he'll face the winner of Ljubic and Bagdhatis (probably Ljubic). Again i would expect him to be fav for this game. If he wins them both then he will be in the final, with it highly likely he'll face federer. If it gets to the stage where he gets to the final, this is the point at which i would be looking to trade out for a guaranteed profit.
So to conclude, pray for Davydenko to beat Federer (or at least get ahead enough to lay off) and let the Nalbandian bet run until he reaches the final (hopefully) unless Federer is knocked out beforehand at which stage you will have a decent opportunity to trade out of
hope this helps
ps Federer will win the tournament imo (he had his scare last night and thats the closest any one will get)
Fundamentalist
- 23 Jan 2006 21:58
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Scrip
prob 2 yrs, and definitely 5 months too late!!!
schiff
- 23 Jan 2006 22:44
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Thanks Fundy - that's the sort of thing I'm after. I know the situation with DD is hopeless. When it was approaching 2 sets all and Haas was going better then Fed, Fed was still about 1.2. DD's price is 17 now and I could sacrifice a fair chunk of the potential profit to be carried forward for a fairish return.
In the case of Nalbandian it is easier as Santoro is at 5.4 and I would be giving up a lot less.
Thanks again.
Fundamentalist
- 24 Jan 2006 13:00
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Cracking game going on between Ljubicic and Bagdhatis at the mo. Ljubicic was 1.4 fav but Bagshatis is 2 sets up having played brilliantly. The 3rd set is far more even and Ljubicic is getting back into the match and at 4-4 in the 3rd could be intersting if Ljubicic could nick this set
Fundamentalist
- 24 Jan 2006 13:07
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Now 2-1 in sets
Fundamentalist
- 24 Jan 2006 13:20
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Ljubicic has broken in the 4th
bakko
- 24 Jan 2006 13:29
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Hi Steve,
Keeping half an eye on this match too. Not on this but turning out to be a cracking match.
Managed to lump on the India v Pak draw this morning and greened up at 1.03.
Fundamentalist
- 24 Jan 2006 13:30
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Bak
got myself into a bit of a mess and am in need of Bagdhatis to regain control - had a nice green position and overtraded :-(
well done on the cricket, made a few quid on the odi
Fundamentalist
- 24 Jan 2006 13:37
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2 sets all
oops
bakko
- 24 Jan 2006 13:37
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Steve,
I hope for your sake he turns it around.
I've not really seen much of the Aussie Open but know that Bagdhatis has been the find of the tournament having made easy work of Roddick and others.
Fundamentalist
- 24 Jan 2006 13:38
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Bak
problem being that his previous games seems to be telling now and he is looking visibly tired. Not holding out great hopes at the moment
Fundamentalist
- 24 Jan 2006 13:40
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Only comfort is he has won all 4 5th sets hes played whilst ljubicic has about a 25% success rate, but the momentum is clearly against him at the moment
bakko
- 24 Jan 2006 13:43
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Also Ljubicic is the in form player having played very well over the back end of last year to get himself into the masters cup
schiff
- 24 Jan 2006 13:47
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What channel are you all watching it on - please?
Fundamentalist
- 24 Jan 2006 13:48
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Its on either BBC 2 Interactive or Eurosport (410)
Ljubicic 2 break points
Fundamentalist
- 24 Jan 2006 13:49
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both saved, back to deuce lol
schiff
- 24 Jan 2006 13:50
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Cheers Fundy
Fundamentalist
- 24 Jan 2006 13:51
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Somehow bagdhatis held serve - come on lets break him now :-)