goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 16 Mar 2018 12:56
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the rest of the world backs TM to the hilt
as posted before, the investigation has been forensic and there'll be much other supporting evidence that has not and should not be divulged
Fred1new
- 16 Mar 2018 16:20
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To me, the "poisonings" seem to be too clumsy for it to be "professional".
I doubt that the processes for making the "Novichok" group, (A member of a group of nerve agents developed in the 1970 and similarities with glyphosate weedkillers which are available.) are only known to the Russians.
But its use seems superficially clumsy and as dangerous to the perpetrators of the crime as the "intended" victims.
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I think substantiation of the case against Russia would be better than loud-mouthed diversionary tactics.
I understand JC caution and have a distaste of those spoiling for and rushing for a political fight
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Puts me off Italian food for the time being.
cynic
- 17 Mar 2018 09:16
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a very funny Matt cartoon on the front of today's telegraph
if someone could post/paste it up - perhaps fred would be happy to oblige - i think all will enjoy the humour
the caption is
"Temperatures have plummeted, but Jeremy Corbyn says it's too early to blame winds from Siberia"
cynic
- 17 Mar 2018 10:04
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try answering the question!
try posting the one from the front of TODAY's telegraph
i'ld guess the one you have just posted is several weeks old
jimmy b
- 17 Mar 2018 10:44
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For god's sake shut up Fred you are like a child ,just like to be controversial for the sake of it.
Fred1new
- 17 Mar 2018 10:59
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Manuel,
At your age, you shouldn't need spoonfeeding.
DYOW.
Fred1new
- 17 Mar 2018 11:03
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Perhaps you meant this one.
For Trite please read tory's.
8-)
ExecLine
- 17 Mar 2018 13:43
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iturama
- 17 Mar 2018 13:44
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iturama
- 17 Mar 2018 13:45
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Snap
cynic
- 17 Mar 2018 13:53
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thanks chaps .... i'm afraid i have no idea how to do these things, but then i am frightfully old, though apparently younger than our resident marxist and sogenannte good samaritan and christian
i'm sure that at this very moment he's battling the elements to take soup and succour to the homeless near his ivory tower .... he may even be seeking out a few more iraqi and other illegals to offer a share of his humble abode
as for me, i have no pretence to such charitable mentality and action, but having done some cooking, i am now awaiting the start of the rugby
ExecLine
- 17 Mar 2018 14:24
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From Sputnik
May Heckler Demands 'Clear Evidence' Russia Behind Skripal Poisoning
© REUTERS/ Peter Nicholls
EUROPE
16:27 17.03.2018
The nerve agent poisoning of a former Russian intelligence officer and his daughter in Britain, has sent relations between Russia and the UK to a near all-time low, with London producing not a single shred of evidence of Moscow's alleged role in the attack.
A Salisbury resident, who heckled Prime Minister Theresa May during her visit to the town earlier this week, feels angry about the government’s failure to explain why it is so sure about who was behind the March 4 poisoning of Sergei Skripal and his daughter.
"How can you accuse Russia when you have no clear evidence?" Jessica McCarnun shouted at the Prime Minister.
In an interview with SkyNews, the anti-poverty campaigner said that "people want to see the evidence" behind the nerve agent attack.
"It isn't good enough — it's not how we conduct matters in our own courts where you present evidence to the people. We need to know why she is so sure she hasn't jumped the gun,” McCarnun added.
Sergei Skripal a former colonel in Russian military intelligence who was recruited as a spy by Britain, and his daughter Yulia remain in critical condition in hospital after they were found unconscious on a bench in Salisbury on March 4.
Prime Minister Theresa May was quick to point a finger at Russia saying that it was “highly likely” that the Skripals had been poisoned by the Novichok class military-grade nerve agent developed in the Soviet Union.
On Wednesday, May ordered the expulsion of 23 Russian diplomats, canceled a planned visit to London by Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and suspended other bilateral contacts with Moscow.
Russia, which strongly denies any involvement in the Skripals’ poisoning, has responded in a reciprocal manner by expelling 23 British diplomats.
Moscow has also nixed plans to open a British consulate office in St. Petersburg and suspended the work of the British Council in Russia.
Also from Sputnik:
'I Think Skripal Attempted Murder Staged by US, UK Intel' – Political Scientist
© REUTERS/ Peter Nicholls
14:13 17.03.2018(updated 14:15 17.03.2018)
Political scientist Basam Raja has explained to Sputnik what British intelligence might have gained from former Russian spy Sergei Skripal’s “attempted murder.”
Commenting on the heightened tensions between Russia and the UK, Raja said that recent “media and political attacks on Moscow by London are directly linked to the former’s advances in liberating Eastern Ghouta from militants.” According to him, the UK, France and the United States are “doing their utmost to halt the offensive on terrorists throughout Syrian territory.”
“We’ve seen these countries attempting to fuel war in Ukraine, thus striking a blow to Russia. They have repeatedly tried to force Moscow out of Syria, imposing umpteen economic sanctions and creating a restrictions list. They tried to influence Russia through the UN Security Council, raising, for instance, the issue of chemical weapons, however, they failed even to conduct an unbiased investigation into the matter,” Raja elaborated.
Moreover, the expert has suggested that the recent attack on Russia was controlled and orchestrated by the United States.
“I think that Skripal’s attempted murder was staged by the US and the UK intelligence services, and Donald Trump was aware of it. My conclusion is based on my reflections on who may take advantage of the killing. They may gain from accusing Russia of it. The Unites States and Great Britain want to undermine Russia’s position in the UNSC,” Raja proceeded to say, adding that they were explicitly exerting pressure on Moscow because of its success in Syria.
Washington Seeks to Restore Unipolar World
Meanwhile, Russian journalist Andrey Ontikov shares Raja’s views, insisting that Russia did not “let Western countries oust the Syrian government.”
“But aggressive Western policies towards Moscow are based on a greater reason, namely Crimea’s reunification with Russia. People in the West say that the sanctions imposed on Russia are detrimental to them and ask them to lift the restrictions. We, however, might expect bilateral sanctionsto be strengthened following the Skripal incident,” Ontikov stressed.
In addition, the journalist emphasized that Washington is seeking to reestablish the unipolar world order, which was replaced with a multipolar model after Russia’s military operation in Syria. According to him, such developments prevent the US from pursuing its interests.
Fred1new
- 17 Mar 2018 14:50
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Manuel,
"as for me, i have no pretence to such charitable mentality and action,"
Yes, you do seem to recognising yourself as a self-defined "bit of ".
But it is good to have pride in yourself for something.
cynic
- 17 Mar 2018 15:42
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better than being a hypocrite
cynic
- 17 Mar 2018 15:47
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thanks for the guidance EL, but can only bring up the address on advfn .... anyway, i'll post that there and see if anyone then knows how to "translate"
Fred1new
- 17 Mar 2018 18:04
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Manuel.
Yes, hypocrisy does appear to be another of your virtues,
(Indicative of a "flexible" morality?)
so-genannt = so-called.
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Didn't Ireland do well?
cynic
- 17 Mar 2018 18:15
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i am well aware of the meaning of sogennate (not as you spelled it), it being commonly associated with with late and unlamented DDR
i am much amused that you (of all people) think me hypocritical, for at least i say what i mean and (i hope) act accordingly, and don't just slither and prevaricate ..... can you really say the same for yourself (without having fingers crossed behind your back)?