cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
hlyeo98
- 30 Jan 2008 22:04
- 813 of 21973
Dow has created a needle shaped graph this evening...urgh
maddoctor
- 30 Jan 2008 22:06
- 814 of 21973
commentators do not like it - again citing pandering to Wall St
stroreysj
- 31 Jan 2008 08:34
- 815 of 21973
im not surprised the Dow fell back yesterday as some people are never happy but I did expect the FTSE to take the lead and bounce back in the short term, especially with the fairly positive earnings out today. Hopefully the US will rebound and give the FTSE a lead as it appears to have lost its own ability to act
spitfire43
- 31 Jan 2008 08:57
- 816 of 21973
FTSE was trying to break into positive area at 08:15 but the DAX wasn't playing ball, so FTSE followed it lower. I will try for a short position this morning, but will make sure it's closed before Dow opens.
HARRYCAT
- 31 Jan 2008 09:20
- 817 of 21973
DOW is not expected to open up, spitfire. (yet. That may change).
stroreysj
- 31 Jan 2008 09:33
- 818 of 21973
were predicting a 9 point rise about 45 mins ago but now pointing to 69 points down. Fluid to say the least. I know you guy like trading the indices but far to much excitement for me.
spitfire43
- 31 Jan 2008 10:04
- 819 of 21973
Luckly couldn't get my short away, looks like FTSE may pull back now towards 5800. Would expect DOW to try another rally later, yesterdays seems to have been stoped by sellers off loading positions. Could happen again.
explosive
- 31 Jan 2008 10:33
- 820 of 21973
Morning all, looks like I missed all the action last night, had a house viewing which I forgot about and by the time I got in the US had minutes to run.... DOW to me looks like its going for another rally on the open but as of yet only looked at charts, need to confirm the spread price also...
BigTed
- 31 Jan 2008 11:00
- 821 of 21973
Dow Futures currently -90 give or take... anyones guess, but yes could see a rally shortly after open...
explosive
- 31 Jan 2008 11:17
- 822 of 21973
Wall St spread bet buy @ 12344 at the moment, check again around 12
explosive
- 31 Jan 2008 13:04
- 823 of 21973
Now 12355, very difficult to call whats going to happen on the open. think I'll stick today out also. No point gambeling profits made against hunches.
BigTed
- 31 Jan 2008 13:34
- 824 of 21973
Indeed, dying to have a play with a deal on indices, but having done an imaginary short on Dow last night at 12442, it would have been stopped out at a (small) loss when they rose... would i have had enough foresight to re-open one later when they were hundred points up? not sure! shame though cos that would be very nicely in the money now...
cynic
- 31 Jan 2008 13:38
- 825 of 21973
Dow (and FTSE) have now plummeted and extra 80+ points .... only cause i can find is ....... Personal income and spending up slightly more than expected in December. Details soon.
BigTed
- 31 Jan 2008 13:39
- 826 of 21973
and again almost in free fall now heading downwards towards 12200, will that lend support, or is this the start of a larger sell-off...???
cynic
- 31 Jan 2008 13:42
- 827 of 21973
apparently jobless figures were bad
at least that rather justifies the Fed's decision last night, and one would assume they had a pretty good idea of what was coming.
keep feeling that there ought to be money to be made long Dow, but i thought that earlier this morning when it was indicating down only 80 as oppposed to 150 now! ...... managed to sit on my hands!
BigTed
- 31 Jan 2008 13:47
- 828 of 21973
Always find it amusing, that our market holds hands so tightly with across the pond, and although we are roughly half the points of the Dow, the bad news comes out over there, they fall 165 points (futures)and at the same time we are down 135 points... how the hell do you work that out???!!!
cynic
- 31 Jan 2008 13:49
- 829 of 21973
old and true adage .... when Wall Street sneezes, the whole world catches a cold
bhunt1910
- 31 Jan 2008 13:53
- 830 of 21973
Have been reading your posts guys - and thanks for illuminating insight into trading the index.
Feel there is money to be made here - but have done a few dummy runs and am about even with some big losses and some big gains - BUT - I am not sure why yet - so will continue to watch and learn from you experts a little while longer until I feel brave enough to risk real money.
Keep posting guys - I do find it very helpful. Thanks
BigTed
- 31 Jan 2008 14:13
- 831 of 21973
Although have been playing shares for ten years or so, i have racked up many losses, and only recently started to turn things around, however i do consider myself a novice with trading indices and/or certainly shorting things, although have been on the recieving end many times of a long position with a share that has been subject to shorters, TMC last year was notable, held from 435p all the way down to 160p, a good example of the importance of stop losses, actually had luck on myside when purchasing more at bottom and sold out for evens at 265 couple weeks ago... I hope for my sake i can be sensible, strict and successful with CFD's just played around a minute ago and accidentally went long on DOW, (well i thought you would be asked to confirm it...!!!) still, closed two minutes later and only lost one set of dealing cost ($30) oooops, tis only a round of drinks!!!
stroreysj
- 31 Jan 2008 14:17
- 832 of 21973
Ive been one of the biggest optimists throughout this whole bought of negativity but have to admit it is starting to get to me now and Im beginning to faulter. Think I will open a CFD account and start shorting. can't get any worse