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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

cynic - 07 Feb 2009 16:58 - 823 of 6906

this is truly sick and disgusting

Fred1new - 08 Feb 2009 11:05 - 824 of 6906

Useful Website ;http://www.christianaid.org.uk/getinvolved/christianaidweek/video.aspx

rawdm999 - 08 Feb 2009 11:37 - 825 of 6906

cynic, it is more than that, it is truly evil.

Care to make a comment on post 821 Fred or are you hoping it will disappear into the mire of posts. I wonder how much 'aid', be it christian or otherwise, is spent on childrens tv!

Fred1new - 08 Feb 2009 12:09 - 826 of 6906

Raw, Have not read 821. But the comment "disappear in mire of posts" I think must apply to the attempt swamp postings, which are uncomplimentary to the views of your postings.



cynic - 08 Feb 2009 12:35 - 827 of 6906

i have now watched the video clip, but would certainly have liked to see a counter-comment from say Al Jazeerah or better still, a genuine palestinian or iranian resident or representative, if only to confirm the veracity of the clip .... it is slightly concerning that this all seems to have come from CNN with the follow-up comment from another american organisation

MrCharts - 08 Feb 2009 13:04 - 828 of 6906

Hamas children's TV videos are all over YouTube - just Google.
I have also seen them on Al Jazeera TV
Some would say (not you cynic) that they are all Israeli made propaganda and Hamas militants are really Jews (as is the rabbit, of course), and it's all a conspiracy.

cynic - 08 Feb 2009 13:07 - 829 of 6906

how can you tell it's a jewish rabbit? ..... the bucks may be circumcised, but even jews don't do that to does!

Ruth - 08 Feb 2009 13:19 - 830 of 6906

That video clip is truly appaling,not only is it appaling, its truly evil,twisted and sick,

Wonder if Fred would care to comment , and by comment Fred i mean state your thoughts on that particular video without twisting and sidtracking onto other issues ,
Are you going to condemn such sick brainwashing of children by using cartoon characters to learn them hatred for fellow human beings Fred?



cynic - 08 Feb 2009 13:29 - 831 of 6906

having done some very quick checks, video is 99.9% certain to be true - search Google under Assud and you will spot telegraph.co.uk with article dated 23/7/08

Gausie - 08 Feb 2009 14:33 - 832 of 6906

I think Assud digs smuggling tunnels in his spare time.

cynic - 08 Feb 2009 15:43 - 833 of 6906

surely just rabbit burrows

cynic - 08 Feb 2009 15:43 - 834 of 6906

.

MrCharts - 08 Feb 2009 15:48 - 835 of 6906

Apparently Hamas are working on a new TV series in which their children will be encouraged to march into Israel to wipe out all Jews. They will be hidden inside metal things to be named "Daleks" and will be shouting Hamas's favourite word.

MrCharts - 08 Feb 2009 15:57 - 836 of 6906

The Israeli army will be able to tell instantly whether the Dalek is a genuine BBC alien or not.
The ones from Gaza will have a Hamas "fighter" hiding behind it.

MrCharts - 08 Feb 2009 16:16 - 837 of 6906

"rabbit burrows"
I'd have expected that "description" from a certain other poster on this thread :)

MightyMicro - 08 Feb 2009 17:35 - 838 of 6906

Fred, have you watched the video in post 821 yet?

Gausie - 08 Feb 2009 18:28 - 839 of 6906

Fred - the clip is from a popular (!) TV show for kids put out by Gaza state controlled TV. That's Hamas. (in case you don't understand what Gaza state controlled means.)

The Hamas charter - to destroy the state of Israel and to slaughter Jews wherever they are found - you claim time and time again that it's rhetoric. I hope the preschool kids who watch this sort of TV have sufficiently advanced communication skills, a well developed sense of irony, and an analytical and knowledgable understanding of world history to form a similar opinion to yours. Do you suppose these young children recognise that Assud is being rhetorical? Or do you think they just watch, listen, and take it all in?

You're quite fond of pointing out to Mr Charts that you're glad he's not on one side of any negotiating table. Whilst Hamas are in power, the guys who commission and sponsor this very TV show are on the the other side of the table. Are you glad about that?

There can be no peace in the middle east until a generation after the evil Hamas regime is changed.

G

MrCharts - 08 Feb 2009 18:46 - 840 of 6906

What on earth does the squelched one keep making comments to me about?
It must have dawned on him by now I don't see his remarks and they have no value or validity to me anyway. I assume he must enjoy shouting into a strong wind, or even spitting into it.
Whatever.
Yawn.

Quite apart from that, you can negotiate with rational people who might be your enemies or have opposing interests, you cannot negotiate or discuss with the irrational and those who do not even acknowledge your right to life and existence.
Bit like the squelched one, really.

MrCharts - 08 Feb 2009 18:53 - 841 of 6906

Reminds me of that nice Herr Hitler chappie. Democratically elected, of course, so must be ok. His words are only empty rhetoric, don't you know. And he likes dogs. And he has that lovely doctor friend, what's his name? Oh yes, Dr Mengele. Wonderful doctor. Do Google him if his name isn't familiar.
No need to have bombed Germany and murdered all those innocent German women and children. Should have just negotiated with him and all would have been well.
And why blockade Germany? How cruel. How murderous. They only wanted humanitarian supplies.

Fred1new - 08 Feb 2009 18:58 - 842 of 6906

Here again is charty at what he does best. Insult the messenger without reading the message.

You can take a donkey to water, but you can't make it drink.

I find this level of insult like his previous arguments naive and puerile. I hope it isn't the mindset of the Israelis as a whole. Perhaps, he represents and exhibits their poor leadership at the moment.

A reason why they are losing the respect which they may have had previously.



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