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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Fred1new - 12 Jan 2018 11:54 - 8461 of 12628

For the Neo-cons and Kippers.

jimmy b - 12 Jan 2018 13:40 - 8462 of 12628

KING NIGEL !!!!!!

ExecLine - 12 Jan 2018 14:14 - 8463 of 12628

By God! Isn't he extremely good looking?

It's a little bit like looking in the mirror, IMHO.

hilary - 12 Jan 2018 14:38 - 8464 of 12628

He is seriously creepy looking, Doc! He dresses like a spiv, and I'd even go so far as to say he looks like a paedophile - maybe he should get a job in panto as the child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang?

jimmy b - 12 Jan 2018 14:58 - 8465 of 12628

I doubt he would like you either hilary !

MaxK - 12 Jan 2018 15:00 - 8466 of 12628

Now now hilly, if theres one thing Farage is not, it's a paedo...indeed there cant be much on him at all.

Those fearless newshounds, not to mention The €U, would have dug up anything they could use by now.

ExecLine - 12 Jan 2018 15:02 - 8467 of 12628

What utter rubbish, hilary!

Here's my opinion of the man pictured in the photograph.

1. Very kissable cheeks (wifey's comment, not mine)
2. Holds a cigar well.
3. Excellent choice of a shirt collar.
4. Hand stitched suit.
4. Knots his tie perfectly.
5. Well manicured fingers.
6. Neatly groomed, perfect length hair.
7. Humorous and thoughtful type of smile.
8. Overall, a very likeable and very classy guy.

Can looks be deceptive? Well, yes, of course they can. But I'm not particularly interested in any of them, really.

I've also heard this man speak and I do like what he has to say and how he says it. Particularly so, when he is rabbiting on about the negatives of the EU.

ExecLine - 12 Jan 2018 15:04 - 8468 of 12628

And 'Oh dear!'.

I've also marked you down a fair bit, hilary, for making such bloody silly, extremely nasty and stupidly biased comments.

hilary - 12 Jan 2018 15:20 - 8469 of 12628

You can mark me down all you like, Doc. That's your prerogative, and you're welcome to idolise him. It's not going to change my view, however, that Farage is exceptionally creepy-looking, and an overall vile man.

In the meantime, I suggest you wheel Lady Proc down to Specsavers pdq to get her eyes tested. If she thinks Farage's cheeks are kissable, she probably needs a new prescription.

iturama - 12 Jan 2018 15:21 - 8470 of 12628

Don't take it to heart XL. Hilary actually went all weak at the knees. Just doesn't want to admit it. :)
Nigel for James Bond? Better than that Night Manager bloke.
Must be late Friday afternoon..

jimmy b - 12 Jan 2018 15:23 - 8471 of 12628

Can't think what would make someone call Farage vile ,what on earth has he ever done to be called vile .

hilary - 12 Jan 2018 15:31 - 8472 of 12628

Well he's lied to you big time for a start, Jimbo. And what's worse is that you've believed his lies.

jimmy b - 12 Jan 2018 15:35 - 8473 of 12628

You seem just like the remain politicians ,we are all thick and stupid .I have known all about the EU long before i knew who Farage was ,i wanted out way back in the 1990's and i can't wait to leave .

cynic - 12 Jan 2018 15:36 - 8474 of 12628

i confess that i'm amazed he's the best old boy that dulwich college can turn out

jimmy b - 12 Jan 2018 15:41 - 8475 of 12628

He is the best , he's been brilliant .

required field - 12 Jan 2018 18:20 - 8476 of 12628

I think he's out of a job....hence mentioning a second referendum ???....well that's not going to happen.....the leaving process has started.....this cannot now be halted...

Dil - 12 Jan 2018 19:02 - 8477 of 12628

Come off it Hils we know you love him :-)

And if Farage lied I don't know wtf to call what Cammy and Ozzie have been doing for years.

ExecLine - 12 Jan 2018 21:24 - 8478 of 12628

Nigel Farage hit with £35,000 fine for 'misspending EU funds'

The former Ukip leader will have his MEP's pay docked by half to recoup what he allegedly spent in breach of Brussels regulations
Mirror
ByAndrew Gregory
Political Editor
18:18, 12 JAN 2018

Nigel Farage has been fined £35,000 after allegedly misspending EU funds.

The ex-UKIP leader was probed by Brussels chiefs over claims his office assistant had not been working on EU matters.

Half of his salary will be docked from this month onwards to recoup the taxpayers' cash the European Parliament is owed.

Mr Farage recently moaned about being “53, separated and skint”.

This is despite being entitled to the £90,000-a-year MEPs’ salary and living in a £4million townhouse.

He is also entitled to claim thousands more in expenses for staff and travel costs, and will also be entitled to claim an EU pension, worth £73,000 a year.

The revelation emerged just 24 hours after he appeared to suggest he was in favour of a second referendum over Brexit.

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Last night (FRI) a spokesman for the European Freedom and Direct Democracy group, the European Parliament group which Mr Farage leads, slammed the move.

Speaking to the Mirror from Brussels, the spokesman said: "There is a vindictive campaign by the European Parliament of selective persecution of Eurosceptic MEPs, parties and groups.

"This allegation is all part of their politically motivated assault."

European Parliament investigators suspended the contract of Christopher Adams last year. He was Mr Farage's assistant in Brussels.

It is understood they acted after becoming convinced that he was not working for Mr Farage on European parliamentary matters.

Mr Adams, a former UKIP Parliamentary candidate, was also the national nominating officer for UKIP.

Under EU rules, full-time assistants to MEPs are not allowed to do paid work for national parties, while part-time assistants must have their second jobs vetted by the European Parliament watchdog to prevent conflicts of interest.

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Following the revelation, Mr Farage claimed that Brussels chiefs were “just being vindictive” to him because of his role in the Brexit vote.

He confirmed that his pay was being withheld but "absolutely rejected" any suggestion of wrongdoing.

He added: "It is guilty until proven innocent. They can do whatever they like. Since Brexit they are just being vindictive."

Mr Farage described the situation as "very difficult" and said the punishment was "arbitrary".

He added: "I have been (in the European parliament) 20 years. I absolutely reject what they say.

"But it is difficult to know what I can do about it."

A European Parliament spokeswoman declined to comment on the case

But she said that in cases where an MEP “cannot provide any justification or proof” that their funded assistants are doing work directly related to the European mandate of the MEP, “then the administration may recover the money by withholding part of the MEP’s salary”.

However, a European Parliament source confirmed: “Since 1 January [2018] the European parliament has withheld 50% in order to recoup the €40,000 due in salary that was paid to Christopher Adams and which cannot be proved by Farage."

Docking Farage’s pre-tax MEP salary of €8,484 a month would mean he would have repaid what the cash by October 2018.

Mr Farage has been an MEP for South East England since 1999.

ExecLine - 12 Jan 2018 21:34 - 8479 of 12628

Nigel Farage 'has £35k pay docked by EU over misspending claim'

BBC News
3 hours ago

Nigel Farage has had his MEP's salary docked by £35,500 after claims he misspent EU funds, the BBC understands.

The ex-UKIP leader was investigated by the European Parliament over claims his office assistant had not been working on EU matters.

Half of his salary has been withheld to recoup the money the Parliament says it is owed.

The move was condemned by a spokesman for the European Parliament group which Mr Farage heads.

UKIP faces UK probe into EU funding

"There is a vindictive campaign by the European Parliament of selective persecution of Eurosceptic MEPs, parties and groups," said the spokesman for the European Freedom and Direct Democracy group.

"This allegation is all part of their politically motivated assault."

European Parliament auditors last year suspended the contract of Christopher Adams, who was hired to be Mr Farage's assistant in Brussels and Strasbourg.

Mr Adams, a former UKIP Parliamentary candidate, was also the national nominating officer for UKIP, the Guardian, which first reported the story says.

The European Parliament has declined to comment.

The monthly pre-tax salary for an MEP is 8,484 euros (£7,530), which is the equivalent of an annual gross salary, before tax, of 101,808 euros (£90,235). They also receive thousands more in expenses for staff and travel costs.

Mr Farage, who will lose his job as an MEP in 2019 after 20 years in the European Parliament, recently described himself as "skint" in an interview with Mail on Sunday.

The 53-year-old will be entitled to annual EU pension of £73,000 when he reaches the age of 63.

He denied claims of hypocrisy - after campaigning for Brexit - saying: "Why should my family suffer?"

"I have just voted to get rid of my job. I was the turkey that voted for Christmas. How is that hypocrisy?," he told the BBC's Andrew Marr show.

He added that he doubted the money, which would be partly funded by money from the so-called EU divorce bill, would ever be paid, saying: "Given the arbitrary way the European Union behaves in terms of money, I would be very surprised if I get any of it. I don't think it will even occur."

A 2016 investigation by the European Parliament alleged funds for the EFDD group - which includes UKIP and other Eurosceptic parties - had been wrongly spent "for the benefit of UKIP".

It said the group should repay £146,696 of the funds intended for European Parliament business.

An Electoral Commission investigation into whether the party broke UK electoral law is ongoing.

Haystack - 12 Jan 2018 23:38 - 8480 of 12628

I tend to agree with Hilary regarding Farage
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