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Northern Rock (NRK)     

irlee57 - 13 Aug 2007 09:03

any comments, thoughts, on this stock.

cynic - 20 Nov 2007 14:51 - 864 of 1029

press release implied "bugger all" which i read as being rather less than that

mitzy - 20 Nov 2007 15:13 - 865 of 1029

You may well be right as as far as I know there are no other bids on the table unless toothy branson puts one in.

cynic - 20 Nov 2007 15:25 - 866 of 1029

for all that, sp has remined quite solid round present level of 86/87

maddoctor - 20 Nov 2007 15:29 - 867 of 1029

Reports on Tuesday indicated that private-equity house J.C. Flowers made an offer with a "nominal" payout to shareholders. The buyout offer from the group led by an ex-Goldman Sachs banker reportedly would pay 15 billion pounds of Bank of England loans immediately, and around 10 billion pounds more by 2010, according to wire service reports.

hlyeo98 - 21 Nov 2007 08:22 - 868 of 1029

Ho Ho Ho 85p now...NRK will be 30p by X'mas.

cynic - 21 Nov 2007 08:30 - 869 of 1029

i am currently out, but fear that greed may force me to short again

cynic - 21 Nov 2007 08:30 - 870 of 1029

i am currently out, but fear that greed may force me to short again

hlyeo98 - 21 Nov 2007 08:34 - 871 of 1029

Get in, cynic...the debacle will widen and Chancellor Darling will fall into it.

chesneya - 21 Nov 2007 09:08 - 872 of 1029

Can you still get a short position on this?

cynic - 21 Nov 2007 09:28 - 873 of 1029

possibly

greekman - 21 Nov 2007 09:39 - 874 of 1029

For anyone who wants cheering up see the following. It's a sketch of the sub-prime fiasco. It's so near to the truth it's almost unbelievable. It is a wind-up so if you are only looking at serious debate don't go there.

http://www.dailyreckoning.us/blog/?p=619

kitosdad - 21 Nov 2007 11:13 - 875 of 1029

Buyers seem to be winning at the moment.

hewittalan6 - 21 Nov 2007 13:20 - 876 of 1029

Very funny, Greek.
Too close for comfort in many respects, but a mile away on others.
Very true that it almost a self fulfilling prophecy. Had no-one got the jitters over property valuations, it would never have happened, and the best hope for a relatively blood free end to it all is a forecast of robust property prices, though I doubt that.
Even in satire, governments and brokers get hit, but surely the truth is that individuals decide what they can afford and want to do. Not governments and brokers. Lenders decide on their underwriting, not governments and brokers.
But we all know that governments will be blamed for allowing it to happen, and brokers will carry the can for the clients wrong decision.
Meanwhile the lenders will be bailed out by the taxpayer and destitute homeowners will be assisted by legal and / or benefit changes, even though both have only themselves to blame.
Anyway, enough of the serious stuff.
very funny and well worth a view.
Alan

hlyeo98 - 21 Nov 2007 16:39 - 877 of 1029

40 billion deficit in this NRK debacle will cost Gordon Brown his election.

cynic - 21 Nov 2007 17:00 - 878 of 1029

he is perfectly capable of losing the election without the help of either NRK or "sweetness and light" aka Darling

driver - 21 Nov 2007 17:05 - 879 of 1029

cynic
In that case we are doomed.

cynic - 21 Nov 2007 17:06 - 880 of 1029

you could have Minger if you would rather!

driver - 21 Nov 2007 17:10 - 881 of 1029

Vote for James Whale

explosive - 21 Nov 2007 21:54 - 882 of 1029

Lets not get started on politics....

cynic - 24 Nov 2007 10:19 - 883 of 1029

it amuses me greatly to hear RAB squawking that it is unfair to the shareholders - aka them! - if they do their bollox! ...... oh dear, oh dear, oh dear! ...... so this bunch of so-called professionals looks likely to have chucked 80m down the drain ...... i cannot believe the incompetence of these guys; similar happened with Barclays and BFC just before that went into receivership ..... the rest of the world knew it was going to happen, but they knew better - didn't they just!
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