Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Lol nice one Boris.

Now Corby and his loonies have got one leg off the fence their Brexit plan will be shot to pieces in the coming weeks.

Already members of his own party speaking out against it , many of them represent strong leave constituencies and are for Brexit themselves.

That lot is going to make any division in the Tory party look a minor problem compared to their own splits.

Foot in her mouth Abbott on Question Time this week , that should be a laugh.

Rees-Mogg: Brussels’ Demand for Supremacy of EU Courts After Brexit Would Turn UK into ‘Convict State’

Breitbart News
Brexit: Thomas Frey/AFP
by LIAM DEACON
27 Feb 2018145

Unelected Brussels bureaucrats are set to demand the UK continue to obey the rulings of European Union courts for an indefinite period after Brexit as they maintain their uncompromising stance in divorce negotiations.

The UK must bow down to the European Court of Justice (ECJ) as the ultimate arbiter of treaty-related disputes during and after the divorce and ‘transition period’, the European Commission is expected to insist in a draft withdrawal agreement to be released Wednesday.

The bloc wants the so-called “governance mechanism”, seen by three sources who spoke to the Financial Times, to be enforceable with punitive sanctions including cutting the UK off from the European Union’s (EU) Single Market.

It is contained within a 160-word document alongside other demands likely to enrage those hoping for a clean break from the EU, and comes days after the Prime Minister reportedly surrendered to the bloc on continuing open borders and maintaining “regulatory alignment”.

Jacob Rees-Mogg, the Tory MP who chairs the pro-Brexit European Research Group (ERG), said the European Commission plan would turn Britain into a “convict state”.

“I think the EU is going to suggest some things that the British government will reject this week and this sounds like one of them,” he said.

“It would turn us from a vassal state into a convict state, sentenced to hard labour for our love of democracy.”

The bloc wants the so-called “governance mechanism”, seen by three sources who spoke to the Financial Times, to be enforceable with punitive sanctions including cutting the UK off from the European Union’s (EU) Single Market.

No. "The bloc" doesn't want this. Surely to God it doesn't want this.

And what on earth is the point of us relying on any continuity of trade with "the EU bloc" if we have no powers over the governance of that trade with it?

This is 'Mr Barnier' that wants to bully us with this shite.

Italian Election this weekend.

Exec,

You are beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

But!

There's no point in entering into an agreement like that, it would have to be broken almost from the word go.

No politician would commit themselves to a one way agreement (not even Treesa)

What is interesting to me is the number companies I have which are returning higher dividends and buying back their own shares, rather than using "cash" to expand their business.

What do they know?

It might have something to do with bonuses Fred.

Jack the shareprice higher, collect a juicy bonus for a job well done.

I think more down to a lack of expectancy of future earnings increasing as a result of investing over the next 2-3years and further on.

Lack of confidence?

There are several reasons a company would buy back its own shares for cancellation, and those reasons tend to revolve around the common theme of the company being financially healthy, examples of which include being cash rich, having an undervalued market cap, a desire to enhance existing shareholder value, and a wish to pre-empt and stave off unwanted predators.

I didn't realise broad Brexit pessimism was an acknowledged reason??!!??

Fred thinks it's snowing because of Brexit !

Well it did come from that direction Jimmy.

We should put a tariff on it when we leave.

No snow here, Jimbo - it's only snowing in Blighty. Bit nippy mind.

:o)

Barca getting some white stuff too.

Not happy about it :)

Cheers for Brexit! The most British of measures, a pint of champagne, is to return

By
Melanie McDonagh

27 February 2018 • 6:48pm




Winston Churchill considered a pint of champagne the perfect amount – enough for two people at lunch, one at dinner Credit: HULTON ARCHIVE/Keystone





How, said King George VI to Winston Churchill in Darkest Hour, “do you manage drinking during the day?” Churchill’s reply: “Practice”. And of course, he was so right.

But there was another secret to his drinking, which was that he knew exactly how much to take. Specifically, the imperial pint for champagne.

For Churchill, “an imperial pint is an ideal size for a man like me. It’s enough for two at lunch and one at dinner. It pleases everyone”.

It amounted to a four-glass bottle, and I’d say myself that this is indeed the perfect quantity. It’s half way between a half bottle and a full bottle: about enough to cheer you up, and just enough to share.




More if you sign in: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/27/cheers-brexit-british-measures-pint-champagne-return/

A worthwhile speech by John Major.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43229962




or

Former PM Sir John Major: Brexit voters made a 'historic mistake'
The ex-Conservative PM says anyone who thinks the EU will give the UK everything it wishes for is "extraordinarily naive".
22:07, UK,Monday 27 February 2017




https://news.sky.com/story/major-brexit-voters-made-a-historic-mistake-10784495

John Major speaks for John Major not for me or anyone else, who does he think he is to tell me I made a mistake, in the past 20 months I have become more convinced than ever that the decision I made to vote LEAVE was the correct one.

I have never been under the misapprehension that we could or even should get given everything that certain Brexiters are shouting for, FFS you only have to see the way they treated DC when he asked for crumbs to know our Brexit Officials were in for a fight. But I bet the EU wish they had given some leeway back then.