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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dil - 03 Mar 2018 21:14 - 8792 of 12628

Umm Hils , they were odds on last time and the odds were much shorter.

Dil - 03 Mar 2018 21:17 - 8793 of 12628

... and when's the last time the polls got anything right ?

Martini - 03 Mar 2018 22:11 - 8794 of 12628

WBA being regulated?

hilary - 04 Mar 2018 08:26 - 8795 of 12628

Dil,

A second referendum hasn't even been called so it's all a bit academic at this stage. The betting market will be thin, and the bookies will just be keeping a balanced book, making it sufficiently attractive to pull in some business and ensure they win to some degree, regardless of the outcome.

There are so many intangibles still. For instance, how effective will Soros' money be this summer in drumming up interest for a second referendum? Will Maggie get a good deal from Brussels? Will she win October's meaningful vote? Will she still have a job? Will Corbyn be PM?

Once those matters are resolved, and if there does end up being a second referendum, then the betting market will change. You know how these things work.

cynic - 04 Mar 2018 08:52 - 8796 of 12628

Maggie????

Fred1new - 04 Mar 2018 09:16 - 8797 of 12628



Get behind you leader.


Which leader and which way is she going?

hilary - 04 Mar 2018 09:19 - 8798 of 12628

Maggie May, cyners.

cynic - 04 Mar 2018 09:27 - 8799 of 12628

and which leader would Fred suggest? ...... Corbyn?
racing certainty he won't actually say who he'ld like to see leading UK's exit from Europe

One can dislike the referendum result, but that's what UK voted for, so it's no good sitting around wringing your hands and wishing it hadn't happened

interesting to note that even France is now clamouring for a drastic overhaul of the eurozone

MaxK - 04 Mar 2018 10:19 - 8800 of 12628

I suspect the €urobods are popping little packages over the Italian thingy.

jimmy b - 04 Mar 2018 10:49 - 8801 of 12628

hilary , if you went with political odds makers of the last few years you would be bankrupt :))

Dil - 04 Mar 2018 10:59 - 8802 of 12628

M , knew you were in trouble when you signed Kanu. Welsh legend after his goal against Belgium at the Euro's but even the Cardiff fans didn't want to sign him although he was a free agent.

Cardiff favourites to go up with Wolves but not confident the bookies have got that right so keep the faith ... positive village mentality :-)

Dil - 04 Mar 2018 11:01 - 8803 of 12628

Hils , if Soros chucks me 50k this summer then I'm willing to start a campaign on here for a second referendum :-)

cynic - 04 Mar 2018 11:08 - 8804 of 12628

as usual (so predictable), fred lays into the tory leadership via his (inevitable) cartoons

so which leader would Fred suggest? ...... Corbyn?
racing certainty he won't actually say who he'ld like to see leading UK's exit from Europe

One can dislike the referendum result, but that's what UK voted for, so it's no good sitting around wringing your hands and wishing it hadn't happened

interesting to note that even France is now clamouring for a drastic overhaul of the eurozone

jimmy b - 04 Mar 2018 11:08 - 8805 of 12628

I'll take the money too cause we will only vote out again.
When will these folk get it , it's over .

Fred1new - 04 Mar 2018 11:23 - 8806 of 12628

Manuel.

At the present time, I would think the tory party needs its Queen of Vacillation.

They certainly have one.

The UK doesn't!

Ps

Was she your mother?

Fred1new - 04 Mar 2018 11:33 - 8807 of 12628

Manuel.

If you go back a few hundred posts you will see that I wrote that the result of Brexit will probably be the UK outside the EU. having to accept the rules and regulation, paying towards the running costs, but not having any say in the rules and regulations.

But able to go back with a begging bowl in hand when they need help.

Littel of no influence on its future developments. And the 27 remaining players remembering the costs of the Brexit fiasco.

Of course, the Brexiters will be puffing out their chests and shouting like the football mob "we won".

cynic - 04 Mar 2018 11:41 - 8808 of 12628

and as usual you do not address the question asked .... why do you not try it for a refreshing change?

lest your brain is neo-goldfish (like mine i fear), the below is the question again ....
so which leader would Fred suggest? ...... Corbyn?
racing certainty he won't actually say who he'ld like to see leading UK's exit from Europe


if that's a tad complex for you, try the dumbed down version ....
Fred - who would you like to see leading UK's negotiations to exit from Europe?

jimmy b - 04 Mar 2018 11:49 - 8809 of 12628

cynic take your own advice and stop conversing with Fred , he doesn't vote anyway so why is he so interested ?

Fred1new - 04 Mar 2018 12:07 - 8810 of 12628

Manuel.

It is your right to ask questions.

It is my right not to waste time on responding to you.

Choke on it if you wish to.

However, I would much prefer to have Corbyn or even Cable to be negotiating with "Brussels" for the benefit of all in the UK, than the present government's incumbents negotiating for themselves and attempting to hold on to power and protect their own personal interests.

Is "the PM says", the new mantra from tory party central office?


But Manuel with your degree of egocentricity I can understand your disagreements with me.

-===-=

I will wait and see the results of the "elite's" negotiations.

Europe is beginning to laugh at the "little englanders".


Edited!



Fred1new - 04 Mar 2018 14:33 - 8811 of 12628

For Manuel from another tory idiot!


Tories’ Brexit unity fades as Heseltine slams May’s speech


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/03/tories-brexit-michael-heseltine-theresa-may






But I forgot he disagrees with the neo-cons.
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