Socrates
- 10 Jan 2004 10:34
Time now for all us Wiggins watchers to move with the times and start using Planestation, the new company identity. The name Wiggins Group plc has now disappeared from the database at Companies House and Planestation is now listed on the LSE website.
So fellow travellers, forget Wiggins, the name of the game is now PLANESTATION. Lets hope it goes like an express train.
Golfclub12
- 04 Feb 2004 16:14
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Golfclub12
- 04 Feb 2004 16:15
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hows that??
G12
Golfclub12
- 05 Feb 2004 15:17
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Looks like plenty of panic selling today
G12
ajren
- 05 Feb 2004 15:37
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Why - panic selling ?
rgds aj
apple
- 05 Feb 2004 16:19
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ajren
I think that it might be those that got a bit over excited by the writeup in shares mag.
PTG is a long term investment, it will have some nice jumps when PTG announces new customers but this share is no good to short termers at the moment. My guess is that the jumps will be too small for them in the next few months.
With such large assets & potential large assets, I don't see much risk in PTG.
Maybe their turnover can increase by a factor of 100 in the next 5 years & take the share price with it, they have certainly got the capacity for more than that. DYOR
& then there is the land around Manston that can generate cash from airport services & companies setting up there.
I'm looking at 5 years for this 1 but even in 1 year I'm hoping for a substantial profit.
skyhigh
- 05 Feb 2004 16:57
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Agree with Apple. Wheels have fallen off for the moment but it'll get fixed and up & away again soon.
Gains will be long time coming, there's still a lot of baggage to get rid of.. but once the good news starts flowing it'll come good. Need to be patient.. :)
partridge
- 05 Feb 2004 17:07
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ajren - history is littered with asset rich companies, many of them profitable owing to creative accounting techniques, which went bust because they ran out of cash and PTG could easily join them. Turnover is vanity, profits are sanity, and cash is king as they say. Very high risk until they produce numbers showing healthy cash generation and that may be a year or two away, so bound to be some jumpy sellers from time to time. Like you, I intend to hold, but very much aware it could easily go pear shaped. It is a double (or more) or quits stock.
apple
- 05 Feb 2004 17:40
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skyhigh, fallen off, I don't think so (don't exagerate) but if you make more comments like that then I might be able to buy even more at an even lower price :-)
ajren
- 06 Feb 2004 11:14
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I think their londoncityracecourse - if planning permission granted - will be
a pot of gold.Agree/disagree ?
rgds aj
Golfclub12
- 06 Feb 2004 13:12
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definately
G12
apple
- 06 Feb 2004 13:49
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ajren
If they get planning permission on that land then they will sell it at a very good price & have more to spend on Manston facilities in addition to the 30Million cash they've already got.
Golfclub12
- 06 Feb 2004 14:28
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I think that the scale of this project was reduced considerably but still should make a hell of a tidy sum, and like you say this could then be put into the planestation projects.
g12
Golfclub12
- 07 Feb 2004 08:17
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Please , please can some body explain in simple terms what these share warrents are that PS are sending out.? are they taking what shares we have away and replacing them with a smaller amount or are they giving us more?
I am only a small stake holder and fairly new to the game and hav'nt come across this situation before. HELP!!!!
Kind Regards G12
Socrates
- 07 Feb 2004 10:07
- 101 of 1086
Golfclub12
You need to get some basic knowledge quickly or it could cost you some money.
In short, the warrants are a free issue to PTG stockholders who qualified at the time of issue. Clearly you are one as am I. They grant you the opportunity to buy the same number of shares at the execise price, in this case 10p each.
These PTG warrants have value now, all be it small and you can track and trade them the same as any other share using Epic "PTGW". The value rises and falls as the share price changes.
Since the exercise price is 10p, there is not much point in exercising now, hence the warrants have a low value, since you can buy shares on the open market for around 4p, but if the share price were to go up to 15p, clearly there is an advantage in exercising your warrants.
There is clearly a gamble involved depending upon how high you think the share price may rise in the seven year life of the warrants. Since the higher the share price, the higher the profit if you hang on for the rise.
I think that's about it for basics, I'm sure better informed investors will add some comment. Bear in mind that after the seven years is up, the warrants are cancelled and become worthless.
In the case of PTGW some people are buying shedloads of warrants at next to nothing gambling on a significant price rise.
Pugugly
- 08 Feb 2004 14:12
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partridge:- You have put your finger on my major worry about the group. Cash flow - Yes plenty of assets - but many are a cash drain at the moment - The company has to make them profitable or they may run out of cash again. Further delays in planning permission could result in yet another cash call or low ball takeover.
Also given massive dilution and dlutive warrants outstanding limit to upside (imo)
Golfclub12
- 08 Feb 2004 18:51
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Socrates
we all have to start somewhere and your knowledge and advice is much appreciated.But i always remember DMOR!!
Kind Regards G12
apple
- 09 Feb 2004 08:08
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Pugugly & partridge
PTG has got plenty of cash at the moment.
Read all of this thread.
Golfclub12
- 11 Feb 2004 07:29
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All
PLANESTATION GROUP PLC
For Immediate Release
06 february 2004
Major New Cargo Facilities At London Manston
A 2.5m investment is being made at London Manston Airport to create a major new cargo handling facility for foodstuffs from outside the European Union.
At a ground-breaking ceremony (6 February) Thanet Council leader Cllr Sandy Ezekiel launched work on the 3,200 square metre Border Inspection Post, which will be one of the largest facilities of this kind in the UK.
The BIP should be operational by the early summer of this year with design and construction being undertaken by Kent-based firms.
The BIP will provide full facilities for the quality control of imported food and enable the Department of the Environment Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) to carry out quality checks prior to its introduction into the food chain.
Airport Chief Executive Geoff Lansbury said the building of the BIP would open up significant new cargo markets for London Manston.
He said: “This is an essential move for the next stage of the commercial development of freight business at London Manston. We have already had considerable success with this part of our operation and the opening of the BIP will make the airport even more attractive to UK and overseas freight operators.”
Cllr Ezekiel welcomed further investment in facilities at London Manston and the commitment being shown to long-term development.
He said: “The growth of the airport’s freight business has already created new jobs in Thanet and this impressive new facility will be a real asset. We look forward to seeing London Manston Airport continue to grow and contribute to the prosperity of Thanet.”
The BIP is part of a major on-going programme of investment at the airport which has also recently seen the introduction of CCTV cameras, the upgrading of fencing, and the introduction of new automatic landing (ILS) facilities.
Geoff Lansbury added: “Industry interest in Manston is high and several aircraft operators are considering the development of aircraft maintenance facilities. These proposals are now being actively pursued following the obtaining of planning permission for two new hangars, which could take wide bodied jets.”
Talks are also currently underway with several operators for the provision of scheduled and charter passenger flights from London Manston.
For further information please contact:
Philip Bosley, PHB Public Relations, 01580 852500.
NOTE TO EDITORS
The BIP project team includes:
Architects
Blundell, Thompson, Hargreaves (Longfield, Kent)
Civil Engineers
Tully De’Ath (Forest Row, East Sussex)
Surveyors
Groves Associates (Tonbridge, Kent)
Main contractor
GSE Building & Civil Engineering (Ashford, Kent
If you access this site there are photos to be veiwed.
G12
apple
- 11 Feb 2004 08:41
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Thanks G12
leedslad
- 11 Feb 2004 16:57
- 107 of 1086
Advertising for firefighters in the fire mag, saying increasing airfield cat cover to cat 6. This could be for the passenger aircraft. dont think they would be employing more staff if something definate wasn't on the cards. Looks like time to top up before news breaks.