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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

MaxK - 08 Jul 2018 09:29 - 9175 of 12628

Brexit deal will condemn Tories to landslide election defeat, MPs warn






By Edward Malnick and
Anna Mikhailova, Political Correspondent
7 July 2018 • 10:00pm


Theresa May is facing a furious backlash over her plans for Brexit, after senior Tories said the scheme signed off by her Cabinet will put the Conservatives on course for an election defeat akin to John Major’s landslide loss to Tony Blair, and could split the party.

One senior government figure said Mrs May had backtracked from her professed “red lines” in the EU negotiations in a move that could lead to a “seismic moment” in which millions of voters buy into opposition party assertions that the Conservatives “do not care about ordinary people”.



More if you sign up:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/07/07/brexit-deal-will-condemn-tories-landslide-election-defeat-mps/

Fred1new - 08 Jul 2018 11:59 - 9176 of 12628

Is it true that No 10 is advertising for workers for the expansion of their new Fudge Making Factory, which has been set up by Party Central Office and carries the No 10 Emblem?

Problem is that there no prospects of long-term employment as nobody wants to buy their brand of fudge any longer.

MaxK - 08 Jul 2018 13:10 - 9177 of 12628

And that includes tory voters. (former)

MaxK - 09 Jul 2018 00:37 - 9178 of 12628

From across the road



Mount Teide
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Two Tweets from DD's Chief of Staff

'DD wants to honour manifesto promises to Britons. Couldn’t collude with civil servants and Remainers to undermine Brexit'

'Discussing Chequers policy with Merkel before Cabinet colleagues was bonkers. And relying on unelected civil servants with no political debt to electorate, double bonkers.'


Breaking News: Second Brexit Minister Steve Baker, has quit the Government, sources say. That leaves just one Brexit Minister Left !

Cerise Noire Girl - 09 Jul 2018 06:39 - 9179 of 12628

With David Davis quitting, BoJo polishing turds, Maggie Dismay in disarray, and all those divisions in the Tory ranks, it's probably a good time for a second referendum.

:o)

How many days left, Dilbert?

Proselenes - 09 Jul 2018 08:17 - 9180 of 12628

2nd referendum........and if Brexit wins again, you want a 3rd, and then a 4th......and then Remain wins and the Brexit side demand a 5th referendum.......and then Remain wants a 6th as Brexit won the 5th.............

There is only 1, its been held, the vote was out.

And Out is the result.

End of.

Joe Say - 09 Jul 2018 08:21 - 9181 of 12628

Bang on - Exit now

And Mrs May - you ain't getting my vote again

MaxK - 09 Jul 2018 08:25 - 9182 of 12628

She doesent care .. she answers to a higher authority.

MaxK - 09 Jul 2018 08:25 - 9183 of 12628

Fred1new - 09 Jul 2018 08:30 - 9184 of 12628

Don't worry boys.

Theresa will soon have Trump coming to hold her hand and show her what to do.

Fred1new - 09 Jul 2018 08:36 - 9185 of 12628

The market seems to like the resignations.

???

ExecLine - 09 Jul 2018 16:26 - 9186 of 12628

From the Betfair Exchange:

Next Conservative Leader after Theresa May

Javid...............5.7 (Remainer)
Rees-Mogg.......6.2 (Leaver)
Gove...............7.2 (Leaver)

Next PM after Theresa May:

Javid...............5.4
Rees-Mogg.......6.0
Corbyn............6.2
Gove...............7.0

Exit Dates Theresa May

July 18 - Sep 18.....2.4
Oct 18 - Dec 18......5.8
Jan 19 - Mar 19......7.2

Cerise Noire Girl - 09 Jul 2018 16:31 - 9187 of 12628

Have you got odds for the date of the second EU referendum too, Doc?

ExecLine - 09 Jul 2018 16:36 - 9188 of 12628

If there is to be one, Hils, then it will be HERE

cynic - 09 Jul 2018 17:07 - 9189 of 12628

9185 - quite so, and it's easy to see why ......

i also would dsagree that the tories would get hammered in a new GE (if there even is one), as a large slice of the population would be happy to see a soft(er) brexit ....... why would they all suddenly switch to labour which would happily work towards a more federal europe?

Fred1new - 09 Jul 2018 18:04 - 9190 of 12628

But you can see what happens if you put a woman in charge.


8-)

Dil - 09 Jul 2018 18:40 - 9191 of 12628

Lol Hils , keep praying cos it ain't gonna happen any time soon.

Fred1new - 09 Jul 2018 18:49 - 9192 of 12628

A general election would be first and then another referendum will do.

Coming soon to your part of the country!

ExecLine - 09 Jul 2018 20:14 - 9193 of 12628

64% of people do not now believe that Theresa May is able to negotiate a good Brexit Deal for the country.

Also, just in...

"Tory MPs are submitting letters to the 1922 committee to trigger a vote of confidence in the Prime Minister’s leadership, and Mrs May’s official spokesman has been forced to say that she would fight off a leadership challenge.

As this bulletin goes to press, the BBC is reporting that 48 letters - the exact number required to force a vote - have been submitted."

So here we go.

I have just sent a donation to "Ready for Rees-Mogg" to add to his war chest and support any leadership bid he may be inclined to make.

Fred1new - 09 Jul 2018 20:23 - 9194 of 12628

Exec,

What is the address?

I have something in my compost heap I would like to donate to the war chest.
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