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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Fred1new - 09 Jul 2018 20:23 - 9194 of 12628

Exec,

What is the address?

I have something in my compost heap I would like to donate to the war chest.

MaxK - 09 Jul 2018 20:37 - 9195 of 12628

MaxK - 09 Jul 2018 20:40 - 9196 of 12628

cynic - 09 Jul 2018 21:13 - 9197 of 12628

vote labour
you get to stay in europe with more power devolved to the unions and a trend towards a more fiscal eu


vote lib/dem
assuredly you'ld be voting to stay europe and also you'ld split the vote in an unknown proportion
would lib/dems hold the balance power?
very doubtful, and if not what value your vote?


vote tory
you'll probably end up with something similar to what we already have, but with at least some freedom to follow or own course (i hope)


vote ukip
fall on the floor laughing and frothing at the mouth if you aren't already

Claret Dragon - 09 Jul 2018 21:28 - 9198 of 12628

What a mess.

MaxK - 09 Jul 2018 21:29 - 9199 of 12628

Vote UKIP and fuck up lots of remainer MP's chances of holding onto their jobs.


The Soubry burd for example (tory) only has a very slender majority, and they voted out, only to be betrayed.

cynic - 09 Jul 2018 21:57 - 9200 of 12628

CD - surely you never deluded yourself it was ever going to be easy? ....... only the fruitcakes subscribed to the idea of just pulling up the drawbridge and sailing happily into the sunset

Claret Dragon - 09 Jul 2018 22:27 - 9201 of 12628

I never thought the vote would be given. However when you are given the option in or out then you have to honour the outcome. I keep hearing from gutless wonders that nobody voted to be poorer. Utter bollox.

If the result went to stay in then I would have accepted it. Moaning like drains about a loss is something we have to accept everyday when trading. Cant ask for another go if it goes wrong.

May be I am thick skinned. Luvvies don't tend to be IMHO

MaxK - 10 Jul 2018 00:16 - 9202 of 12628

cynic is a closet remainer, what do you expect?

Cerise Noire Girl - 10 Jul 2018 06:27 - 9203 of 12628

Have any more of your glorious leaders resigned overnight?

:o)

MaxK - 10 Jul 2018 08:06 - 9204 of 12628

h/t to bob across the road.



Mr Bean Appointed As New UK Brexit Secretary

July 9, 2018 - BREAKING NEWS, POLITICS






FOLLOWING the sudden resignation of former UK Brexit secretary David Davis, prime minister Theresa May has announced her new appointment to the role, Mr. Bean.

Announcing his resignation just two days after warring factions in May’s cabinet approved a Brexit plan in a bid to unblock negotiations with Brussels, Davis wished Mr. Bean all the best in his new job, stating he couldn’t think of a better person to succeed him.




More: http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2018/07/09/mr-bean-appointed-as-new-uk-brexit-secretary/

cynic - 10 Jul 2018 08:22 - 9205 of 12628

max - just more realistic and far less rabid than some here

iturama - 10 Jul 2018 08:31 - 9206 of 12628

No need to talk about Hilary like that C. She is suffering from gammon deprivation. A clear symptom of the menopause.
While on the subject of deprivation, universities (read polytecs and sundry mediocre schools) should now consider deprivation, not just marks, when assessing admission. As if recruitment to McDonald's has not been dumbed down enough.

MaxK - 10 Jul 2018 10:54 - 9207 of 12628

Cerise Noire Girl - 10 Jul 2018 15:29 - 9208 of 12628

The gammon will be huffing and puffing at this.

:o)

Proselenes - 10 Jul 2018 16:22 - 9209 of 12628

Who cares what Labour think...........

Just let it continue and go to NO DEAL.

Fine........pay nothing to those EU asses and walk away......... WTO rules apply.

cynic - 10 Jul 2018 16:38 - 9210 of 12628

yup ... draw up the drawbridge, drop the portcullis and pour boiling tar over 'em all .... that'll larn 'em! ...... spiffing idea

MaxK - 10 Jul 2018 21:12 - 9211 of 12628

No c, wto is anything but.

It's out in the big wide world, without the protection racket which is the €U.


Sounds like Trumpo is going to blow them up anyway, the trade imbalance is astounding (sound familiar?)

Not to mention the €urobuns expecting everyone else to pay for their defense.

MaxK - 10 Jul 2018 23:24 - 9212 of 12628

Nicked from across the road


Proselenes - 11 Jul 2018 06:36 - 9213 of 12628

Yep MaxK.

US politicos have merrily been allowing the EU and China to have massive trade surpluses with the USA in return for their nearest and dearest getting very rich.

Trump is going to blow that all away.............. if they are unwilling to accept a zero tariff on everything, then trade will be like for like. US buys 100B from EU, then EU buys 100B from US.

That is why the liberal media and liberal lefty loons hate Trump. He simply is doing things right and is pissing off the snouts in the trough big time.

Look at the protection the EU affords to French farmers, its a prime example that the EU is just a racket, its corrupt, it serves no good for the majority.

WTO rules will make the cost of living in the UK fall........... but the Remoaners will never want to admit that.

The rest of the world is far bigger than the EU..........how can having a better trade relationship with them be detrimental......only in the eyes of a Remoaner.
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