Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

The country didn't make any contracts, they were made by successive governments and all the while drawing us (UK) towards a federal Europe with absolutely no thought for the people.

I agree it would be better to have a united EU with strong economic, defence, legal and police systems etc. in place, but that must be fair to all. Unfortunately the EU's insistence that the EURO must work has impoverished huge numbers of European citizens essentially young Europeans, the ones without jobs, the backlash is being seen through the ballot box.


I also agree the destabilisation of Europe is the last thing needed at the present time. However this is of the EU's unelected establishments own making.

a federal europe was not much though of or even at all back in 1973, when the eec was just 13 countries
at that time, it was seen primarily as a trading pact
since then, it has grown like the hydra

VICTIM - 08 Oct 2018 13:27 - 9600 of 9607
Thought Mother Merkel invited quite a few million in didn't she , quite naively .

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She was after young blood; the age of Germany's population is a problem. No care was given to how they - probably an increased number from encouragement - would get there or for the countries they'd travel through.

Cheers,
KidA

Ah well KidA this is the problem really , how do you go about getting the people you want , do you advertise and they then apply , of course It didn't work like that they just stormed into Europe , all sorts . It was a massive error , not thought through .

Fred for President - do away with the Royals - the corrupt judiciary - the mandarins in the civil service that rule us - in a word the "Illuminati" and Fred will solve all the problems in the world because Fred knows best.

Fred's world would be a beautiful world .. or else.

Vic I think we mentioned before about why didn't Murky invite the unemployed European youths to Germany, that would have turned out much better for Europe and it's tax payers.

Fred , Corbyn wants to be part of the EU less than Mrs May so stop making out he wants to stay in.

And as for 600 whistling Rule Brittania , it'll be 17 million plus whistling it in 172 days time.

And more bad news for those wanting a second referendum ... Sturgeon is in favour so that'll piss off most of Scotland.

Dil you have enough trouble on your plate with your useless excuse for a football club so you might as well cut your loses and give up on this other useless Brexit nonsense...178 days to go to the first informed referendum now 😃

Informed referendum , what exactly would the terms of going back into the EU be then Stan , do you think we're just going to slot in where we left off . We haven't been a part of it now for 18 months or so , no meetings etc . It could be the most damaging thing we would ever do .

Cardiff voted to remain Stan , what did Burnley vote ? :-)

Manuela's and Dil's dancing partners.

Keep it up Frd but guess what .... we leaving , happy days.

Wanna cone to the party ?

Oh my bad , guess you didn't understand what you were being asked so you'll probably want me to ask you again in 2 years time.

Tick tock :-)

Dil, Burnley like a lot of depressed areas in this Country voted out thinking wrongly that leaving the EU would mean less immigration meaning low wages and conditions would be stopped.

Unfortunately for them and us they didn’t count on immigrants from outside the EU coming instead which would result in the same I.E. wages and conditions being kept low.

Dil,

Your mum is waiting for you.

The difference is Stan we can pick who we allow in instead of all and sundry having the right to come in.

Fred , chin up old bean , won't be long now.

brexit will cast a long shadow for many more months, with the overhanging threat that JRM and Boris will contrive to allow labour into power - and then there will be NO brexit

Chances of labour getting into power in the next election is no greater than Fred getting into space.