cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
Stan
- 22 Nov 2012 09:32
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Flash? We know they have a proper economy unlike ours, but isn't using the word Flash just rubbing it in?.. explain please Skinny -):
Toya
- 22 Nov 2012 09:44
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Fear not - it really does work Stan :)
Toya
- 22 Nov 2012 09:45
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I think Skinny posted a handsome young man for my benefit
cynic
- 22 Nov 2012 09:47
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imo, that germany has a strong economy is all smoke and mirrors ...... do you remember how it used to be boasted that the french economy was so strong blah blah blah?
do you remember how no french or german cattle ever suffered from bse - hahaha?
Toya
- 22 Nov 2012 09:48
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I agree with you cynic: If you read some in-depth reports, Germany is already suffering from the downturn in Europe - it's why I can't understand the markets racing ahead...
skinny
- 22 Nov 2012 09:50
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Spanish 10-y Bond Auction 5.52|1.8 previous 5.46|1.9
ahoj
- 22 Nov 2012 10:11
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Toya, ignore the indicators. There is no competition!
Stan
- 22 Nov 2012 10:12
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Ah thanks both, never heard of it before.
cynic
- 22 Nov 2012 10:16
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ah well Mistress T, markets are (nearly) always looking forward at the next 6 months or so and as i have been telling everyone for the last 2/3 months, there is no question that world economies are picking up .... this wasn't guesswork or similar, but merely an obvious conclusion from the fact that chemical shipments were picking up - i.e. companies re-stocking ...... at long last, i see the press and economists echoing this, albeit rather belatedly, for they wait for assorted national economic reports, and of course those are historic
our own observations are that europe remains quiet, but asia, which has never collapsed in the same way (pace japan), is assuredly stronger ..... india has really suffered, but that may be in due in part to a very weak currency, but is now showing small signs of recovery ..... m/e petro economies - i.e. not just oil, but petro-chem derivatives - are certainly stronger
Shortie
- 22 Nov 2012 10:17
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Morning all, French and German PMI data today
Shortie
- 22 Nov 2012 10:28
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In the wake of confirmation of Mr Paul Ottelini’s intention to depart Intel the business falls short on quarterly earnings and confirms an $8.8bn impairment charge to intangible assets as a result of “serious accounting improprieties, disclosure failure and misrepresentations at Autonomy Corp (remember them?) prior to HP’s acquisition.” Ooops! HP shares down 13% in response. Autonomy may reject the charge. One to watch..
Toya
- 22 Nov 2012 10:36
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Skinny: did you set up your short HP??
skinny
- 22 Nov 2012 10:37
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No - I took the 2nd option as discussed (pub) :-)
HP closed +2%
Toya
- 22 Nov 2012 10:48
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It'll probably go down again
Meanwhile, I reckon DOW should go up next week - on the basis that we'll have had a lull over the US festive days; plus they've (temporarily) stopped killing each other in Gaza;the EU will continue to discuss Greece :); and Obama will talk up Fiscal Cliff negotiations...
Long term, cynic, I'm sure you're right - gotta be, I hope...
Toya
- 22 Nov 2012 10:54
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However, when I read things like this:
Eurozon'es Economy continues to deteriorate at an 'alarming pace'
then I tend to think of going short from a suitable point!
Shortie
- 22 Nov 2012 11:11
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http://rt16.it-finance.com/FinSpreadsFlash/showimage.phtml?id=371908acbd786f6d75b2b35b196c629c819a7581aaf927545a769363bd4ba4ea&type=png
Looks like a Yen breakout, tempted to trade...
Shortie
- 22 Nov 2012 11:31
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Charts
FTSE 100 Daily
http://rt8.it-finance.com/FinSpreadsFlash/showimage.phtml?id=858827ba1e799ad8043be0985410a8510a7b6cee04f78ef767c13f8f8d588aaa&type=png
Wall St
http://rt16.it-finance.com/FinSpreadsFlash/showimage.phtml?id=fa2cc3aaba939600988374fae95be32046ffa425198e47de4f624b1cdae00fe5&type=png
EU Stocks 50
http://rt8.it-finance.com/FinSpreadsFlash/showimage.phtml?id=de01cab8080d9a3fb3a973cc101a3eb1a6bfbc97581f61cc3bd1f5742e101aa3&type=png
Japan 225 (Nikkei) Breakout here also as with the Yen
http://rt16.it-finance.com/FinSpreadsFlash/showimage.phtml?id=554ff7066c96d162b36b7c2672ae9281561ac2b31fbeb3f03fb3f1cf5b8522b4&type=png
cynic
- 22 Nov 2012 11:31
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don't get fixated on europe
Toya
- 22 Nov 2012 11:32
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I'm thinking in terms of short the DAX cynic