Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
Haystack
- 07 Jun 2010 11:02
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Were these containers unloaded under independent scritiny or just while the troops were there? Who videoed the unloading? How much time did Israel have to plant the weapons there?
tyketto
- 07 Jun 2010 11:38
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As somebody pointed out on another blog(groups.google)
the date at the start of the video is 04/11/2009.
Isaacs
- 07 Jun 2010 11:38
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Good questions Haystack. You should ask similar questions about the loading process as well if you want to be objective.
Haystack
- 07 Jun 2010 12:08
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Interesting that the sacks of flour have dates of 2008 on them.
Haystack
- 07 Jun 2010 12:15
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LOL
A weak trick to implicate the flotilla.
Here is the same video posted 7 months ago!
Israeli naval commandos intercepted a ship carrying "hundreds of tonnes" of arms which officials said were being sent from Iran to the Hezbollah militia in Lebanon. The haul from the Francop ship is among the largest ever seized by Israel, containing hundreds of ammunition crates packed into shipping containers, many hidden behind sacks of cement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRJS7Yg3VbM
Gausie
- 07 Jun 2010 12:24
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I haven't seen the video, but I doubt it's either official or genuine.
The ships in this flotilla were not really expecting to get through the blockade IMHO - they may have been hoping that they might get through and create a precedent for subsequent gun running vessels - but I think it more likely that they were instigating and expecting an intifada style dust up. You'll recall that the intifada is a technique used by Palestinian activists in which they hurl rocks and stones at armed soldiers and then film the resulting return of live fire, complaining that the response is disproportionate - presumably on the assertion that a proportionate response from the army would be to throw rocks back.
It would be sheer madness to hide hot weapons on board a ship with such an agenda.
Haystack
- 07 Jun 2010 12:29
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07/06/2010 - 10:59 AM
Jewish Voice for Peace movement in Germany said it intends to send an aid ship or maybe more to break the Israeli blockade imposed on the Gaza Strip in the coming weeks.
The Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth quoted member of the movement Kate Leitrer as saying that they are planning to leave for Gaza in July.
"We have one small craft so far, in which there will be between 12 and 16 people, mostly Jews," Leitrer added.
"Getting another boat means more expenses, and we're discussing this possibility," she noted.
"The UNRWA chief appealed to the world to send ships due to the shortage of important supplies in Gaza," she said. "By stopping the flotilla, Israel acted criminally. Israel must not act like pirates."
She also affirmed that the Jewish activists are not afraid of Hamas in Gaza, but of Israel and its intention to attack any ship trying to break the siege, adding that many Jewish activists came in the past to Gaza and were treated in a friendly manner.
acw
- 07 Jun 2010 12:47
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Political freedom is an idea but not a fact. This idea one must know
how to apply whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea to
attract the masses of the people to one's party for the purpose of
crushing another who is in authority. This task is rendered easier if the
opponent has himself been infected with the idea of freedom, SOCALLED
LIBERALISM, and, for the sake of an idea, is willing to yield
some of his power. It is precisely here that the triumph of our theory
appears; the slackened reins of government are immediately, by the
law of life, caught up and gathered together by a new hand, because
the blind might of the nation cannot for one single day exist without
guidance, and the new authority merely fits into the place of the old
already weakened by liberalism.
GOYIN SHOULD BE KILLING GOYIM AS THEN DID IN 2ND WORLDWAR.THEY ARE NOW DOING IT IN IRAQ AND AFGANISTA.
GOYIM ARE BORN TO SERVE MAXWELLS AND MADEOFFS.
acw
- 07 Jun 2010 12:49
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In all corners of the earth the words "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity,"
brought to our ranks, thanks to our blind agents, whole legions who
bore our banners with enthusiasm. And all the time these words were
canker-worms at work boring into the well-being of the GOYIM, putting
an end everywhere to peace, quiet, solidarity and destroying all the
foundations of the GOY States. As you will see later, this helped us to
our triumph: it gave us the possibility, among other things, of getting
into our hands the master card - the destruction of the privileges, or in
other words of the very existence of the aristocracy of the GOYIM, that
class which was the only defense peoples and countries had against
us. On the ruins of the eternal and genealogical aristocracy of the
GOYIM we have set up the aristocracy of our educated class headed by
the aristocracy of money. The qualifications for this aristocracy we
have established in wealth, which is dependent upon us, and in
knowledge, for which our learned elders provide the motive force.
hilary
- 07 Jun 2010 13:00
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Blimey. This thread gets worse.
If you get a pride of lions, a colony of ants and a flock of geese, what's the collective noun for a load of fruitcakes?
tyketto
- 07 Jun 2010 13:03
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Bedlam?
Chris Carson
- 07 Jun 2010 13:14
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KNOBHEADS - Has a distinctive sound :o)
skinny
- 07 Jun 2010 13:17
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I like the one for doves - piteousness :-)
acw
- 07 Jun 2010 13:19
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GOYIM ARE BORN TO SERVE MAXWELLS AND MADEOFFS. YOU HAVE DONE IT YESTERDAY,YOU ARE DOING IT TODAY AND YOU WILL DO IT AS LONG AS YOU LIVE.
tyketto
- 07 Jun 2010 13:25
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A Tea Party (Alice in Wonderland)
mnamreh
- 07 Jun 2010 13:29
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tyketto
- 07 Jun 2010 14:00
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mn.
Check with The Mad Hatter :-)
mnamreh
- 07 Jun 2010 14:07
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Fred1new
- 07 Jun 2010 15:13
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A Friend of Hilary's!