Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

The government is now not allowed to use the machinery of state to
push their pro-eu agenda since 'Purdah' started last week.

But don't think that's it for pro-eu reports to be brandished at the public
in a scaremongering manner.

Just a couple of days before the referendum the IMF are to release an
update on the worlds economic state, but in all probability it'l be mostly on
the effect of a LEAVE vote, with the IMF throwing everything it can from the
doomsday book of scaremongering and fear.

Christine Largarde the pro-eu, ex French finance minister, now in charge at
the IMF will in her inimitable gallic manner tell us all of the forthcoming of
disaster, and plagues of locust to descend on us if we have the temerity
to vote LEAVE....

UP YOURS MADAM LARGARDE!!

Across the pond.

www.cnbc.com/2016/06/09/brexit-actually-makes-economic-sense.html

fred - we all know you're a total arsehole, but do at least try to report accurately .....

i have consistently written that there are many good arguments for staying in and likewise for exiting, so to write "little Cynic is more interesting in disparaging anybody who holds different opinion" is a total and typical untruth

to then write further that i am "a perfect little tory sycophant" is another nonsense, and in any case completely irrelevant to the current discussion
were that to have any factuality, i would presumably be a member of the conservative party (i am not) and also a supporter of cameron (remain camp) which i also am not

A trip down memory lane..




'We'll quit EU over migrants' David Cameron gets tough but UKIP say its too late

DAVID Cameron warned the European Union yesterday Britain was going to give it “one last go” to reform immigration rules or the UK would vote to leave.



By Owen Bennett

PUBLISHED: 05:43, Fri, Oct 17, 2014



Mr Cameron admitted “it’s not going to be easy” to renegotiate freedom of movement laws imposed by Brussels, but warned the rest of the EU it could lose one of the continent’s strongest powers if it did not give ground.




http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/523417/European-Union-powers-David-Cameron-immigration-policy

Think the don't knows must be getting off the fence and jumping Brexit way.

Remain campaign has become more desperate last couple of days , think it's squeaky bum time for Cammy and the scaremongers.

Who does this remind me of?

You live a bit in an Ivory Tower Freda don't you , banging on and on daily from your vantage point looking down on all and sundry , with your flaky responses to situations put to you . All in a days entertainment .

David Cameron says state pensions could be at risk if Brexit becomes reality



Exclusive: Prime minister claims protected NHS cash may have to go as he cautions voters on possible consequences of voting to leave



Honest dave spells it out



David Cameron has warned that pledges to raise state pensions every year and ringfence spending for the NHS may have to be ditched in a brutal new phase of austerity if the country votes for Brexit.


With Downing Street increasingly anxious about levels of support for leaving the EU, particularly among Labour voters, the prime minister says people need to focus on the “cold reality” of what Brexit would mean to their everyday lives and what they value most.

In an exclusive interview with the Observer, with only 12 days to go until the crucial referendum vote, Cameron insists he is not trying to scare people but is focusing on the reality of what life would be like outside the EU and the world’s largest trading market.

He says the so-called “triple lock” that guarantees annual increases in state pensions, ringfenced spending on the NHS, free TV licences and bus passes for pensioners, as well as defence spending would all be under threat.



The prime minister argues that a “black hole” in the public finances – predicted by the Institute for Fiscal Studies by 2020 in the event of Brexit – would threaten the very services that people cherish and rely on most.



More: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/11/brexit-axe-state-pensions-david-cameron-nhs-cold-reality

Vicky.

P2887,

I thought that role belong to you and that Moneyam's sophisticated little bit of rough. Manuel.

(Who, perhaps, should read his own past posts.)

More scare tactics. It won't affect the foreign hand-out, the crazy gang enshrined that in law, or their pay and pensions, but god help those that have contributed all their lives and have come out with very little to show for it. Clearly aimed at those more likely to vote out. Clown hasn't realised yet that threatening people just makes them more stubborn.
I wonder who pays the fabulous EU pensions of the likes of the Kinnocks and Mandelson after we leave.

IT,

If you are so capable why didn't you apply for Mandelson's or Kinnock's jobs?

Anybody betting with IG Index on BREXIT ? just checking. The bet goes from 0 to 100, so if you have say a £1 per point bet @ 10p and OUT win , will your profit be £90

There are two EU referendum polls in the Sunday papers – YouGov in the Sunday Times and Opinium in the Observer. Both of them have the race neck-and-neck: YouGov have REMAIN 49%, LEAVE 51%, Opinium have REMAIN 51%, LEAVE 49%.

In both cases the topline figures are pretty much unchanged from figures a week ago, remaining roughly neck-and-neck. There is certainly no echo of that ten point Leave lead ORB produced on Friday.

interesting

YouGov had Labour and the Conservatives tied at 34% before the 2015 GE. In fact the Conservatives won with 37.7%, against Labour's 31.2%. Opinium had it at 35% against 34% for Labour. So both were wrong. Just go out and vote and ignore the polls.

h/t to pete across the road..



End of EU rule FINALLY in sight: Leave camp take 19-POINT lead as Britons flock to Brexit

A NEW poll has given those wishing to leave the EU a remarkable 19-POINT lead over Remain.



By Marco Giannangeli, EXCLUSIVE

PUBLISHED: 13:16, Sun, Jun 12, 2016 | UPDATED: 14:25, Sun, Jun 12, 2016


The Opinium Poll, commissioned by the Brexit-backing Bruges Group think tank, is further evidence that the Leave camp is gaining support and delivers the biggest margin of victory for Brexit so far, after giving voters the option of a choice of free trade agreements with the EU.

It found 52 per cent chose to leave the EU, with only 33 per cent choosing to keep the status quo.

Despite there being less than two weeks before the crucial referendum, on June 23, a further 15 per cent said they still didn't know.

Of those who voted to leave the majority, 39 per cent, said that Britain should have some sort of Free Trade Agreement with the EU, similar to the one currently enjoyed between the US, Canada and Mexico.



More: http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/679104/End-EU-rule-FINALLY-Leave-camp-take-19-POINT-lead-Britons-flock-Brexit

Well he has to try everything.

Nice to know he threatens pensioners income and not that most worthy of causes, the foreign aid budget.
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