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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 04 Oct 2013 00:11 - 30521 of 81564

Oh dear, Cameroon bottling it again....anyone surprised (except Haystack)?



Clegg happy to include Farage in TV debates

Nick Clegg has said that he would be “relaxed” about Nigel Farage taking part in television debates before the next election, leaving David Cameron as the only party leader opposing the UK Independence Party leader’s involvement.




By Peter Dominiczak, Political Correspondent
9:11PM BST 03 Oct 2013

The Deputy Prime Minister said Mr Farage’s involvement should be a decision for television broadcasters.

Speaking to LBC radio Mr Clegg said that there is an “assumption that what you should have is the leaders of the big parties that are represented in Parliament, who can actually play a role in governing this country”.

However, when asked about the Ukip leader’s involvement he added: “I’m relatively relaxed about it.”

Ed Miliband, the Labour leader, has also said that he is happy to “debate anybody” when asked about Mr Farage.

Mr Farage said Mr Cameron was “fearful” of debating him. “With Clegg happy to debate me, and Ed having made it clear he was OK with it in the past, it looks the only one too fearful to come to the feast is Mr Cameron,” Mr Farage said. “I have to say on this one, to coin a phrase, 'I agree with Nick’.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10354642/Clegg-happy-to-include-Farage-in-TV-debates.html

Haystack - 04 Oct 2013 01:16 - 30522 of 81564

Farage has no MPs and little chance of getting any. Of course he shouldn't be allowed in TV debate. It gives him more credence than he deserves. Why not have the Green party or the Monster Raving Loony party. The TV debate is not a right for any party. It is just a piece of television. The public have come to expect a TV debate these days. I am sure Miluband/Clegg can arrange a televised debate if they want one.

Haystack - 04 Oct 2013 01:23 - 30523 of 81564

I am looking forward to a Conservative clear majority and then they can repeal the hunting ban.

Chris Carson - 04 Oct 2013 07:17 - 30524 of 81564

That statement just makes you look silly H. Hardly number one on the list of priority. Why would that concern you anyway? Don't you live in the City?

cynic - 04 Oct 2013 07:33 - 30525 of 81564

farage has as much right to a tv debate as the conservatives have of getting an overall majority in the next election

aldwickk - 04 Oct 2013 08:23 - 30526 of 81564

Haystack

Fox hunting is a cruel blood sport that should be banned forever , there are just as many chicken's killed by dog's and nearly all sheep are killed by dog's.There is no massive problem from fox's.

Haven't heard anything about all those hunting dog's and horse's that were going to be killed if there was a ban , also the mass unempolyment in the countryside.

ps a slight problem in the city's , but they do clear up a lot of waste food that would have been eated by rat's.

aldwickk - 04 Oct 2013 08:27 - 30527 of 81564

Chris

I have been onto Chess . com , yes its a very good free site , i have made a note of your username.

Chris Carson - 04 Oct 2013 08:29 - 30528 of 81564

Ok Aldwick, cheers. Enjoy.

MaxK - 04 Oct 2013 08:32 - 30529 of 81564

Cleggy has nothing to lose by having a debate with Farage, he might even repair some of the damage...cos he's good at presentation.

Millibandus, not so sure, but he obviously fancies his chances, and what has he got to lose?

Cameroon, well, he's fooked anyway. He wont be able to control the flow as he does in the set piece HoC debates, so will probably come across as a wooden talking head.

No wonder he don't want a debate.

goldfinger - 04 Oct 2013 08:57 - 30530 of 81564

Yep but Max he'l have one of those secret hidden bugs in his ear hole with Lynton Crosby telling him what to say and do, how to smile how to use his hands etc etc.

MaxK - 04 Oct 2013 09:07 - 30531 of 81564

He's not too good at that even with the someone telling him what to do gf.

He seems to prefer the set piece "debates" where he has control.

No way will he want to walk into a casino type debate, cos Cleggy and Farage will tear him to pieces, even the Millibandus stands a good chance of making him look stupid.

It's a lose lose situation for Cameroon, so I can understand his reluctance.

Fred1new - 04 Oct 2013 09:09 - 30532 of 81564

But you will see his strings being pulled.

2517GEORGE - 04 Oct 2013 09:29 - 30533 of 81564

So, the unions also not paying their taxes, hypocrites.
2517

Fred1new - 04 Oct 2013 09:56 - 30534 of 81564

Ask Hays about not paying taxes?

2517GEORGE - 04 Oct 2013 10:02 - 30535 of 81564

I know Haystacks views on not paying taxes, and I disagree with him, but the unions have been banging the drum about companies failing to pay their taxes, like I said, hypocrites.
2517

Haystack - 04 Oct 2013 11:00 - 30536 of 81564

The fox hunting bill was voted down twice by parliament. Blair has said that he regretted promising to pass the law in the election. To pass the fox hunting act into law he used the Parliament Act to force it through. This is a misuse of due process. The Parliament Act was introduced to force through important financial legislation similar to that needed at present in the US. It has only been used in a handful of situation even after it was amended in 1949 to widen its scope. The age of homosexual sex was pushed through with it. Pushing the Hunting with Dogs Act through in this way against the wishes of parliament is an abuse of power. The act should be repealed and if needed debated and voted on afresh. I do live in a city, but approve of hunting.

aldwickk - 04 Oct 2013 12:40 - 30537 of 81564

Haystack

The wish of the people was to ban it .

I see you have not answered the reason's i gave why it should be banned.

Haystack - 04 Oct 2013 13:03 - 30538 of 81564

I see no reason to ban it. It is part of the traditional culture of the country. Plenty of people approve of it. The people who want to ban hunting are mainly city dwellers who don't want badger culls, want natural childbirth, ban nuclear weapons, stop fracking etc.

It is academic at present, partly as hunting still continues on private land and local law turns a blind eye. You can bet that with a good majority the law will be repealed.

aldwickk - 04 Oct 2013 14:27 - 30539 of 81564

Haystack

Badger culls have not been proved to work .

"It is part of the traditional culture of the country " so you would approve of bear baiting , dog fighting and cock fighting and badger baiting then ?

doodlebug4 - 04 Oct 2013 14:27 - 30540 of 81564

You forgot to mention pheasant shooting in that list Haystack! I have lived in both the city and the country. Wherever I live I find fox hunting completely barbaric. There is something grotesque about a pack of riders encouraging a pack of hounds to chase a fox and then enjoying the spectacle of watching it getting ripped to shreds.
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