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How to profit from Betting Exchanges (BEX)     

Scripophilist - 27 Oct 2004 23:40


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Fundamentalist - 16 Sep 2005 13:18 - 4661 of 10502

5.5 to 8.4 - nice start to the day :-)

Scripophilist - 16 Sep 2005 13:27 - 4662 of 10502

Steve, For once I am in the office all next week.

Fundamentalist - 16 Sep 2005 14:23 - 4663 of 10502

2.15 - 1.02 in running beaten by 33-1 outsider lol

Scripophilist - 16 Sep 2005 14:25 - 4664 of 10502

I just accidentaly bagged that outsider, was messing around in play.

Scripophilist - 16 Sep 2005 14:29 - 4665 of 10502

1.10 turned over on the 14:25, Hat trick coming up?

Scripophilist - 16 Sep 2005 16:00 - 4666 of 10502

Obilque, 16:00, keeping an eye on it.

Scripophilist - 16 Sep 2005 16:05 - 4667 of 10502

LOL! Lost, I'll explain how I spotted it in a minute.

Scripophilist - 16 Sep 2005 16:14 - 4668 of 10502

I don't know if anybody was watching this on Bet Angel but every now and again somebody was coming into the market and laying 10k+ on the horse. Some very big volume on the lay side going through. Just looked so obvious to me, so obvious. So I laid it a 1.78

DocProc - 16 Sep 2005 17:31 - 4669 of 10502

HelenW

I found the following web site, which seems to give some helpful information and also some examples of Backing and Laying for novices like me:

http://www.betting-exchange-advisor.com/

HelenW - 16 Sep 2005 17:44 - 4670 of 10502

Thanks for that DocProc - I will read and learn! H

Scripophilist - 16 Sep 2005 22:15 - 4671 of 10502

Chelsea's odds look a little skinny to me away to Charlton, currently priced @ 1.62

Charlton are off to a good start and it is well documented that local matches are much more likely to be closely contested.

ptholden - 16 Sep 2005 22:46 - 4672 of 10502

Scrip

Backing Charlton on this one. Chelsea although undefeated are not playing well. Charlton on the other hand have had a very good start and are scoring goals. If there is a good time to turn the Blues over it might just be now. Only a small bet, but with the odds as they are it does have its attractions.

pth

Fundamentalist - 16 Sep 2005 22:57 - 4673 of 10502

Surely backing charlton is the wrong bet, Chelsea havent conceded a goal yet (i think - if they have its only one) - if you think Chelsea are short and Charlton have a chance then surely you should lay Chelsea (and have the draw in your favour) - from a trading perspective you can trade out if Charlton go ahead or if 0-0 at half time. Charlton price will drift as the game goes on and your only chance to trade out is if they go 1-0 up

Having read some of the recent comments coming out of chelsea, im seriously tempted to back 0-0 in chelsea games and trade out after 15-20 mins though want to look into what % of games last yr they scored or conceded in the first 20 mins versus the decay in 0-0 odds

Scripophilist - 16 Sep 2005 23:01 - 4674 of 10502

Goal scoring this year in the premiership has been very slow at around an average of 2.00 goals a game. Historically well below the norm. I am working on a lucky league this year which aims to indentify potential shocks by pricing teams that have played well but not scored well and vice versa. No idea what will come from it but just playing and documenting for this year.

Scripophilist - 16 Sep 2005 23:03 - 4675 of 10502

fundy, I am not sure if pth is into trading per se at the moment. But should be from the 30th September for sure!

Fundamentalist - 16 Sep 2005 23:12 - 4676 of 10502

Scrip

then ignore my drunken ramblings lol! another disciple waiting to happen! currently finishing off a fabulous evening with a very decent cognac that is wasted on me :-) nice though it is.

Will try to look at the footie prices tomorrow and add some coherent comments

ptholden - 16 Sep 2005 23:31 - 4677 of 10502

Steve,

I am sure what you say is probably correct from a trading perspective, but this is just a punt on a feeling rather than disciplined trading. I am sure Scrip will knock that out of me during the course!

Problem with laying Chelsea is that (as I see it) the return would be so much smaller or I would have to risk more. I may be able to trade my way out if Chelsea were to take the lead, but to be honest not too sure how to do that effectively at the moment, so sticking with the smaller 'back' bet and hoping for the best.

Also playing golf tomorrow, which complicates matters slightly, but have left an unmatched lay bet against Charlton at lower odds in the event that they manage to take the lead at some point.

pth

Fundamentalist - 16 Sep 2005 23:36 - 4678 of 10502

PTH

fair enough - 1 thing - if Charlton do take the lead the market will be suspended and all pending bets cancelled hence this bet will not get filled whatever happens

ps: good luck on the golf course

markusantonius - 16 Sep 2005 23:37 - 4679 of 10502

Speaking of bets, PTH - cheers for yet ANOTHER pay day on the course at The Craythorne today, mate..............

Scripophilist - 17 Sep 2005 09:50 - 4680 of 10502

Steve is right from the perspective of chance of success a lay draw or Chelsea would give you multiple profit opportunities but if you are playing golf then that sort of scuppers it.
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