this important referendum is nearly upon us and i thought it would be interesting explore the views held by this BB

after much thought, i have decided to vote against AV
i do not dispute that "first past post the post" is in some ways unfair - so is life and golf! - but i am far from convinced that AV is intrinsically much better

i would rather have a stronger gov't of some hue than a weak coalition or mps (and parties) who have felt obliged to trim their sails to offend the least number and thus gain a few more secondary votes

full-blown PR is at least "fair", but even then, there are many examples of horribly weak and unstable gov'ts, which is also pretty disastrous

finally, and of greatest concern, i suspect the turnout for this referendum will be +/-35% at best and probably a lot lower in many parts of the country
it follows that those who vote in this will be (relative) "activists" for lack of a better word, for the run-of-the-mill voter will find the whole thing too complicated and voting on it all, too much of a fag
thus, if there is a change in our voting system, then it is very likely to have been pushed through by <20% of the electorate - is that fair?

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A mature society would be acceptable.

utopia is peace of mind .

how very idealistic and unreal this thread has suddenly become :-)
now approach the issue without the rose-tinted specs!

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I am removing ALL my research from here due to the constant personal abuse, defamation and distortions of it posted by:

ptholden

hlyeo98

halifax

blackdown

kimoldfield

cynic


This bunch of abusive retards is the reason MoneyAM will NEVER have a forum worth reading.

I have reported them to support by they do nothing, either because they want to force me to PAY them for the Traders Room or because they are too lazy to do anything. Maybe the people in support are the ones perpetrating the abuse, so as to force people to pay for the premium boards. Either way the service is sh1te and a disgrace to the finance industry. No wonder there is nobody left here apart from morons.

I will continue posting my good research on boards that are run in accordance with FSA and LSE listing rules and the interests of the market, not here where ar5eh0les rule the boards and all decent research is buried under their piles of sh1te.

I am removing ALL my research from here due to the constant personal abuse, defamation and distortions of it posted by:

ptholden

hlyeo98

halifax

blackdown

kimoldfield

cynic


This bunch of abusive retards is the reason MoneyAM will NEVER have a forum worth reading.

I have reported them to support by they do nothing, either because they want to force me to PAY them for the Traders Room or because they are too lazy to do anything. Maybe the people in support are the ones perpetrating the abuse, so as to force people to pay for the premium boards. Either way the service is sh1te and a disgrace to the finance industry. No wonder there is nobody left here apart from morons.

I will continue posting my good research on boards that are run in accordance with FSA and LSE listing rules and the interests of the market, not here where ar5eh0les rule the boards and all decent research is buried under their piles of sh1te.

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Goodbye.

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M

LoL - Load of tosh.

I take it you never bothered to read the EOG thread and the considerable abuse TA dished out to certain posters for taking a contrarian view to his own?

TA has been ramping EOG on at least four BBs day in day out for months, even getting banned from an ADVFN (quite an achievement) thread for been over-zealous and abusing others. The guy is a total moron - he won't be missed - except for the entertainent value.

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M

You haven't read the thread and are therefore in no position to offer an informed opinion.

Incidentally, I post under my name, annonymous I am not (you, however, are).

If you believe for one moment deliberate ramping is 'honest' when it's only intent is to sucker the unwary you are more nae than I thought.

Edit. My last word on the subject - back to AV.

TA,

From memory I haven't read any of your postings. But feel it a little sad that the level of abuse by a few reaches the levels that they do and you wish to leave this thread or any other for the reasons given.

Another possibility rather than leaving the Board, is to squelch those who you find too repugnant.

I admit to having squelched six regular posters, who I thought deliberately personally offensive to myself, or others. It has improved the BBs for me.

There are a few whose posts I still read as although they attempt to offensive, they do show a little wit.

Good luck anyway.

herman + fred - suggest you do not take TA's word re abuse but check out what he had to say about a number of us .... mind you, he also said he had squelhed us because we dared to say he was talking rubbish .... fred - i don't think i'm even abusive to you, and not many have that claim!

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I have to admit that I am ashamed with myself for having got into a wrangle with TA, mild though it was. I am usually able to contain my anger with anything thrown at me but for some reason was not able to do so in this case. The EOG thread was the offender. I offended TA by asking a perfectly reasonable question, he/she offended me with his/her response. I should have ignored it. :o)

m - You do talk rubbish. Shame? For what exactly? Err, you can't answer that, because you have no information on which to base an opinion. Best you stop digging an even bigger hole for yourself, you are beginning to look extremely foolish.

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