Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Uni's were able to accept far more students thanks to the dumbing down process implemented by the Labour government, and who introduced tuition fees, oh yes the Labour gov.

Every teenager and their pet got a uni place.

most are in Tesco/aldi/ mc
all to thick to hold down a proper job
so much for uni

I left school at 15 no education but not thick retired at 50 now on 70

most are unemployable because they think they are clever all down to left wing teaching

the big problem is they do not know they are thick

Perhaps they were trying to educate those who were too dumb to go to university!

as i've said frequently b4, most would be far better off (in all ways) by going straight into the workplace from school .....

of course this would be a lot easier if we still had the culture of apprenticeships even for those without academic qualifications
it goes without saying that a basic level of numeracy and literacy are still required in any trade

As long I can decide who goes where!

There are still apprenticeships

A tory hero.

That guy in the audience hit the nail on the head last Thursday when he said it should be academically difficult but financially easy to go to university.

We now have a system arse backwards.

You in favour of paying some pie in the sky figure to the EU to get them out of the shit then Fred ?

hays - of course there are apprenticeships for those with decent uni degrees in marketable fields, but there looks to be little or nothing for those in the bottom quartile or even half - ie those who leave school with no qualifications or close to it

Dil - as always used to be the case

With our EU negotiations, I reckon we are going to have to get involved in a thing called a 'Red Line'. In other words, below this we cannot go. Similarly for the other side. Eventually, the populace on both sides will recognise this fact and easily accept it, thereby letting off the political teams who have to be responsible for the negotiations.

In the end, I think there is a strong likelihood we will end up agreeing to pay about £10bn to the EU, and possibly a similar or maybe 50% lower figure per year too, so as to retain access to the single market.

This deal will be a big help to businesses like, say UK's Jaguar (and similar, who are big and have a large work force and high sales levels to the EU) and at the same time, will also allow the likes of, say Germany's Mercedes cars, France with its wine and Spain with its fruit, etc, etc, from the EU to sell us stuff too. ie. It will be quite a 'win/win' type of deal but we will end up agreeing to pay something to be able to participate.

I think we currently net off payments towards the EU of about £10bn per year. If we can be seen to save big time on this, say at even around £5bn per year or more, then it might seem to be quite worthwhile us agreeing to the doing of it.

Boris is getting lots of agreement about his 'the EU can go whistle for it' comments when the very much bigger EU Demand amounts of £80bn or even £100bn, are chucked about.

We are also now constantly getting persistent subtle reminders in the media, telling everyone just how big the rest of the world market place is, when compared to the single market.

I for one, can't wait to get the benefits of us being able to deal more easily with it.

''In the end, I think there is a strong likelihood we will end up agreeing to pay about £10bn to the EU, and possibly a similar or maybe 50% lower figure per year too, so as to retain access to the single market''.

This deal will be a big help to businesses like, say UK's Jaguar (and similar,----------


So what do we charge the EU to --''allow the likes of, say Germany's Mercedes cars, France with its wine and Spain with its fruit, etc, etc, from the EU to sell us stuff too.

I look at those countries which still have the union jack on their flags and wonder how we got to the point that they are treated worse than the flotsam that is deposited on our shores.

Exactly!

These questions don't seem to have any kind of a mutually acceptable answer, do they?

I believe the EU has signed a FREE trade agreement with Japan so why after being one of the few net contributors to the EU for decades do we even contemplate being charged?

Murray not finding it easy... mind you at this stage.

Good

murray out on his feet and clearly injured