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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Fred1new - 16 Jan 2019 14:45 - 11601 of 12628

Cash, LRM, Redwood etc. Have been ignoring previous decisions (or Change of minds) for 50 years.

Martini - 16 Jan 2019 14:47 - 11602 of 12628

So you put yourself in their camp O pompous one

Fred1new - 16 Jan 2019 14:49 - 11603 of 12628

With you in their camp wouldn't be any room.

Though I suppose really you are just a camp follower.

Stan - 16 Jan 2019 15:13 - 11604 of 12628

Poor old M he's so unhappy these days 😥😀

Dil - 16 Jan 2019 15:51 - 11605 of 12628

Fred , why the hell should any of us care what you want for your grand children's future when you yourself care so little you couldn't be arsed to vote ???

Hils , even the French came out a couple of days ago and said the trucks will keep on rolling whatever the outcome of Brexit.

Dil - 16 Jan 2019 15:55 - 11606 of 12628

When is Corby going to get off the fence Fred ?

No one knows what the hell he wants or how he plans on getting it.

hilary - 16 Jan 2019 15:58 - 11607 of 12628

What Jean-Marc Puissesseau said, Dil, was that there wouldn't be a problem in Calais. He couldn't speak for Dover, which is where the checks on goods entering the UK will be carried out.

Meanwhile, this morning's chart has changed...

cynic - 16 Jan 2019 16:00 - 11608 of 12628

with all due respect hils, your chart is pretty irrelevant
it's what happens next that will be more interesting, and of course the answer to that is that no one knows

hilary - 16 Jan 2019 16:01 - 11609 of 12628

Meanwhile, with Corbyn's continued failure to nail his colours to the mast, you're not seeing much change here...

Dil - 16 Jan 2019 16:03 - 11610 of 12628

Looks similar to the chart on would we vote to leave in the referendum and we all know how that ended.

hilary - 16 Jan 2019 16:04 - 11611 of 12628

With all due respect, Cyners, that chart is almighty important if you want to make any serious money from these shennanigans!!!

Dil - 16 Jan 2019 16:08 - 11612 of 12628

Hils , so all the goods coming here will arrive on time according to the French but everything entering the EU could arrive late ????

So why should we give a shit ? Most goods are shipped ex works so going on what you say the extra cost will be on the EU side.

Dil - 16 Jan 2019 16:11 - 11613 of 12628

And I bet people thought they were making easy money lumping on a no vote when the chart was over 90% for a no vote after the exit polls.

hilary - 16 Jan 2019 16:19 - 11614 of 12628

Who knows about the delays, Dil. Puissesseau is the boss of Calais port, and I suspect he was talking through fear of losing business to rival ports after Grayling awarded the contract to the firm with no ships to operate the Margate-Ostend route (???).

My experience is that I've seen lorries backing up big time in both Calais and Dover previously for no apparent reason. The French always blame the Brits, and the Brits always blame the French. (edit: and they're just passport control and security checks, there is no need for customs checks at the moment)

:o)

hilary - 16 Jan 2019 16:23 - 11615 of 12628

Dil,

I'm not so sure there's serious money to be made on the political betting markets - I would've thought it's quite a thin market. But the political events are certainly driving the currency markets right now, and that trend suggesting Brexit's likely to be delayed is driving cable.

KidA - 16 Jan 2019 16:25 - 11616 of 12628

Fred1new [Send an email to Fred1new] [View Fred1new's profile] - 16 Jan 2019 09:59 - 11582 of 11611

Interesting talk about the mess that parliament and the country are in over Brexit.

Remember Cameron and Osborne and a tory clique created the problem...

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They merely brought forward the breaking point. The UK isn't moving with the EU to the United States of Europe - distance growing until snap.

Cheers,
KidA

Stan - 16 Jan 2019 16:46 - 11617 of 12628

"The UK isn't moving with the EU to the United States of Europe - distance growing until snap."

Breaking point what breaking point are you talking about KidA, do you mean the isolation that not being part of what you call the United States of Europe would bring?

cynic - 16 Jan 2019 17:01 - 11618 of 12628

ah well hils, you're a zillion times more clever than me in making money in the markets, but knowing my limitations, i'm not one of those mugs who try day-trading

Fred1new - 16 Jan 2019 17:03 - 11619 of 12628

Dil Send an email to Dil View Dil's profile - 16 Jan 2019 15:51 - 11605 of 11617
Fred , why the hell should any of us care what you want for your grand children's future when you yourself care so little you couldn't be arsed to vote ???


Dil,

I wouldn't expect you to be.

Your self-interest and self-aggrandizement are immediately apparent.

Must be the sheep you bleat with!

Clocktower - 16 Jan 2019 17:05 - 11620 of 12628

The French want rid of Macron - huge numbers of sensible Labour supporters really want rid of JC but because they have been bullied and brow beaten into submission they fall into line like members of the Party that support Putin. The Tories voted to keep TM a short time ago, and most voters in the Country voted for her at the last GE.

However if you listen to the views of a vast number of working people, they think the PM has done a fair job when it comes to trying to get a deal even though many are Labour supports - why is this? I suggest it is because they know that JC has not got a clue which hand would vote for or against Bexit.
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