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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dil - 17 Jan 2019 12:40 - 11661 of 12628

Go read up on it Fred if your that thick.

Fred1new - 17 Jan 2019 13:26 - 11662 of 12628

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-houseprices-rics/gloom-shrouds-uk-housing-market-outlook-as-brexit-nears-idUKKCN1PB005?feedType=nl&feedName=uktopnewsearly&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018%20Template:%20LUNCH%20BREAK%20NEWS%202019-01-17&utm_term=NEW:%20UK%20Lunch%20Break

Gloom shrouds UK housing market outlook as Brexit nears
Andy Bruce, William Schomberg
3 MIN READ

LONDON (Reuters) - The outlook for Britain’s housing market is darkening fast ahead of Brexit, with sales expectations falling to their lowest level in at least 20 years by one measure, surveys showed on Thursday.

cynic - 17 Jan 2019 13:28 - 11663 of 12628

BVS figures and forecast contradict that, and i think the same went for TWS

KidA - 17 Jan 2019 13:40 - 11664 of 12628

Motion Monday, vote 29 January.

Fred1new - 17 Jan 2019 14:18 - 11665 of 12628

"Outlook".

I hold, but!

Dil - 17 Jan 2019 14:29 - 11666 of 12628

Oh no , first housing market down turn in history.

Clocktower - 17 Jan 2019 14:31 - 11667 of 12628

Fred - Not that you would be asked but Would you sit down with TM to discuss how a solution could be found without setting down the condition your leader has. i.e. Take No Deal off the Table?

Your leader is happy to sit down with all sorts of terrorists without conditions but not TM - does her fear that she will put him under her spell?

It seems to me that your leader fears her powers of persuasion or maybe he is only happy dealing with a woman when they are as clueless as his sidekick Diane Abbott, who has trouble with not only her maths but her memory.

Is the Truth really that JC wants a Clean Break but wants to blame the Tories.

Cerise Noire Girl - 17 Jan 2019 14:39 - 11668 of 12628

Dil,

I think there just needs to be a democratic process before the revocation. I guess that probably means a parliamentary majority.

Fred1new - 17 Jan 2019 14:40 - 11669 of 12628

Does a democracy represent the will of the people?

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-poll/uk-would-vote-to-stay-in-eu-by-12-percent-point-margin-yougov-poll-idUKKCN1PB13O

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain would vote to stay in the European Union by a 12 percentage point margin if it was given another vote, the highest level since the shock 2016 Brexit referendum, according to a YouGov poll taken on Jan. 16.

The results of the poll, distributed by the People’s Vote campaign which is pushing for another referendum, showed that 56 percent would vote to stay in the EU and 44 percent would vote to leave, excluding those who would not vote or didn’t know.

“The Remain lead, 12 percent, is the highest yet,” Peter Kellner, former president of YouGov, was quoted as saying by the People’s Vote.

In the June 23, 2016 referendum, 17.4 million voters, or 51.9 percent, backed leaving the EU while 16.1 million, or 48.1 percent, backed staying.

The YouGov poll showed 48 percent would vote to remain, 38 percent would vote to leave, 6 percent would not vote and 7 percent did not know how they would vote. YouGov surveyed 1070 adults.

Backing for another referendum among Labour Party supporters was at 78 percent, the poll showed.

Reporting by Guy Faulconbridge; editing by Kate Holton

Dil - 17 Jan 2019 14:50 - 11670 of 12628

Yes Hils , an unconditional decision to remain in the EU and not just a ploy to delay an exit.

Cerise Noire Girl - 17 Jan 2019 14:54 - 11671 of 12628

I'm not convinced the remain/leave margin is that great, Fred. Unless the remain camp start selling the EU for all of its various benefits and give the public a reason to want to stay instead of trying to frighten them into staying, the 'Tell them again' camp could win a second referendum.

Cerise Noire Girl - 17 Jan 2019 14:56 - 11672 of 12628

Where does it say that, Dil? Not saying that it doesn't, but I can't see it.

Fred1new - 17 Jan 2019 15:01 - 11673 of 12628

Live in hope.

I can't read it.

Dil - 17 Jan 2019 15:01 - 11674 of 12628

A poll on something that isn't happening , nice one Fred.

And according to that poll there would be a turn out of 93% ... yeah right.

Cerise Noire Girl - 17 Jan 2019 15:14 - 11675 of 12628

GBP/EUR 1.1335 now the markets have realised you've decided to stay, Dil.

At this rate you'll soon be able to afford a week in Cyprus with Martini. And, all the time you're still in the EU, you'll be able to get doggy passports and take them with you. Plus you'll probably be able to understand what the Cypriots are saying easier than the Norfolk carrot crunchers.

:o)

Martini - 17 Jan 2019 16:44 - 11676 of 12628

We had snow here last night. That has never happened before it must be due to the threat of a no deal Brexit.

Clocktower - 17 Jan 2019 17:17 - 11677 of 12628

TM`s letter to JC puts the pressure on his shadow cabinet to force him out of the hole he has dug for himself - a hole that his own party will bury him in before long.

Martini - 17 Jan 2019 22:09 - 11678 of 12628

Breaking news
Prince Philip crashes Range Rover as a direct result of no wheel.

cynic - 18 Jan 2019 08:42 - 11679 of 12628

he's a great guy, but i'm sure he really shouldn't be driving on public roads

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i see that arsehole BJ is going to make a major speech today, no doubt in some sort of leadership bid
he'ld never get my vote, that's for sure, not after all his antics over the last year and more, and that has nothing whatsoever to do with his private life

Stan - 18 Jan 2019 08:49 - 11680 of 12628

He's not great and he's not a guy so get it right dumbo -):

Johnson's a Tory so of course he's a Bum wipe... what did you expect Alfredo.
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