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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Stan - 29 Apr 2016 15:43 - 1421 of 12628

Pardon?

jimmy b - 29 Apr 2016 16:04 - 1422 of 12628

Stan i had a transport company and yes in the early days i also drove .

Stan - 29 Apr 2016 16:14 - 1423 of 12628

In that case you may now be refered to as (JD) Jimmy Driver

Fred1new - 29 Apr 2016 18:27 - 1424 of 12628

Dumbo

plus road tolls which the Europeans didn't have to pay when they used our roads

So it will be easy to turn the screw if they wish to.

Tariffs for different loads etc..

Who will pay the cost of the paper work.

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MaxK - 29 Apr 2016 18:52 - 1425 of 12628

Fred, it's a two way street, and they use the street more than we do.

jimmy b - 30 Apr 2016 10:00 - 1426 of 12628

Fred you call me Dumbo but what you posted above is total rubbish ,what does it mean ?
we were talking about International transport (which you know nothing about) we were not talking about tariffs it was about tunnel and road charges and you were wrong so you shift to something else and call people stupid .
I have not mentioned tariffs once.

Fred1new - 30 Apr 2016 10:28 - 1427 of 12628

Dumbo.

Reread and think.

Stan - 30 Apr 2016 10:31 - 1428 of 12628

Don't expect to much Fred.

jimmy b - 30 Apr 2016 10:57 - 1429 of 12628

Fred you know your wrong ,we were not talking about tariffs on goods this is a completely different subject.
I don't know why i even tried to explain it to you because look at your answers .
It's not just me but almost everyone else on here thinks you are a complete fuckwit along with your bum licker Stan .

Fred1new - 30 Apr 2016 11:34 - 1430 of 12628

Dumbo,

Again read my posts relating to referendum over the last week and previous.

Try doing so with an open mind rather than reading into them what suits your positioning on Brexit.

Also, suggest reading, for a simple figurative comparison "Lessons from the east about what folly it would be to choose isolation"

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/24/brexit-lessons-vietnam-european-union-opportunities-isolation

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Your post 1429

It's not just me but almost everyone else on here thinks you are a complete fuckwit along with your bum licker Stan .



Very impressive expression of your obvious limitations.

Congratulations.



Stan - 30 Apr 2016 11:42 - 1431 of 12628

An abusive Tory nonse strikes again -):

Fred1new - 30 Apr 2016 12:02 - 1432 of 12628


Just re-read another article worth considering and written before the Ken Livingston controversy. (?Diversion!)


The way we use language in politics matters
Will Hutton


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/24/boris-johnson-eu-referendum-barack-obama-slur

ExecLine - 30 Apr 2016 13:10 - 1433 of 12628

Barack has a dead ringer of a brother called 'Barack the Embalmer'.

grannyboy - 30 Apr 2016 15:47 - 1434 of 12628

What an utterly obnoxious and one sided article from the
guardian (link in 1430), but not to be unexpected from such a rag.

I don't wish to dwell on this pro eu propaganda piece from a liberal
anti British, non-descript guardianista's waffle for longer then necessary,
but to point out the bleeding obvious.

Vietnam have, after 3/1\2 years negotiated with the
EU 'A FREE TRADE AGREEMENT'

Then it goes on to say 'That is one of more then 50 agreements
with countries on every continent that will be forfeit if Britain quits the EU'

Now I can see the discrepancies even if those anti British twats at
that rag can't or don't want to.

If little Vietnam can get a free trade agreement with the EU and
50 more countries, then i'm certain that the 5th LARGEST economy
in the world can do better, and besides fish sticks and tinned tuna
what else do they produce??

But just like ALL the pro eu remainers, they think the uk is to small
and insignificant and can't manage or are not good enough on their own..

Reading all these lies and deceptions as if all trade and commerce
would cease completely on leaving is JUST THAT...LIES AND DECEPTIONS!!!!!!

2517GEORGE - 30 Apr 2016 18:25 - 1435 of 12628

Makes you wonder how on earth we managed before.
2517

grannyboy - 30 Apr 2016 18:28 - 1436 of 12628

Another thing i thought appropriate and commensurate with Vietnam and the EU...

They are prone to support one party states or dictatorships, just like the EU who think having a referendum in a democracy hinders the EU expansion project..

An absolute disgraceful piece of neutral journalism.......

MaxK - 30 Apr 2016 19:59 - 1437 of 12628

About time the big guns weighed in of the brexit side: Don't read this Fred, it will make you feel sick.




Everyone’s lining up against Brexit, but voters aren’t fooled

By
Liam Halligan


30 April 2016 • 4:47pm




British voters can decide whether the EU is working on June 23 Credit: Reuters



UK GDP grew by 0.4pc during the first three months of 2016, we learnt last week, down from 0.6pc the quarter before. “The threat of leaving the European Union is now weighing on our economy,” claimed Chancellor George Osborne.

The Bank of England is worried about “a fall in sterling due to fears of Brexit”, we’re repeatedly told, the latest Threadneedle Street intervention also warning of “a lower path for growth” if British voters have the audacity to leave the EU.

And if only “uncertainty” hadn’t been “heightened by the UK’s referendum on EU membership”, Janet Yellen opined last Wednesday, the mighty Federal Reserve might now be able to raise interest rates, helping the US central bank steer global markets away from dependence on emergency measures and back towards normality.

With Britain’s EU decision-day less than two months away, every official economic body now seems to be telling us Brexit would send the British economy to hell in a hand-basket – and even threat of Brexit is already doing untold damage.

So what if the UK referendum date wasn’t set until the end of February, most of the way through the first quarter, or growth also slowed across Asia and the US?

So what if sterling already fell 10pc against our main trading partners between December and March, has since staged a partial recovery, and is anyway on a long-term decline given repeated massive trade deficits and the doubling of the UK’s national debt.

So what, also, if many British exporters actually want a lower pound?

So what if the real reason the Fed doesn’t dare raise rates further, having told us in late-2015 to expect four increases this year, is that Western stock and bond prices are so pumped up on printed money, so dependent on the drip-feed of central bank largesse, that any move could send financial markets haywire?



Full article here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/30/everyones-lining-up-against-brexit-but-voters-arent-fooled/

iturama - 02 May 2016 08:27 - 1438 of 12628

Remember Milliband ? The one that likes to put his notes on Ed stones while the rest of us use Post-its? Now he tells us that the Brexits could endanger the planet. Just after Brown saved it.
The former Labour leader will join forces with Environment Secretary Elizabeth Truss, Green party leader Caroline Lucas and former Lib Dem minister Sir Ed Davey to claim that ‘our global habitat’ will suffer if Britain leaves the EU.
The quartet have signed a joint declaration claiming that EU membership is ‘central’ to Britain’s efforts to tackle environmental problems.
They claim that problems as diverse as ivory poaching, commercial whaling and illegal logging could all get worse if Britain loses the ‘added clout’ of being in the EU.
And they accuse Brexit supporters of a ‘cavalier ignorance’ of climate change.
Now where are my wellies because I have a lot on today. Don't know which to do first; a spot of whale fishing before that is banned or go down to the allotment to sort out those elephants in my cabbage patch.

black bird - 02 May 2016 09:17 - 1439 of 12628

against building on cornfields to house the rest of the world racist pops up its used
all the time i am sick of it along with political correctness gone potty.

black bird - 02 May 2016 09:45 - 1440 of 12628

stop cornfields being built on stop immigration stop the in crowd stop £150,000,000
per day nett paid to EU my simple approach to in or out. BB
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