for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

seo's next target ....... biodegradable plastic bags

Bosley

Those bags on the bottom right are not plastic are they?

Is this what happens when no one has anything profound (or profane) to say?

The oily one

Todays IC."Fairly priced"and"analysts now expect only 50 machines to be delivered by the end of October."Also mention of ASDA ,Wallmart and purchase of Biotec.

Hello once again, having not visited this board for a very long time, it's good to see some lively debate.

I think we are now on the very edge of something great, and it's at times like this that people do get edgy, those with patience(me) and those who put the stock in the bottom drawer will live a lot less stressed out I feel.

I do receive the regular EMails from PM1, and find his latest research into release liners very interesting, especially the numbers and broad range of uses, where Starpol should at least be able to get a foothold easily in one area, if the company pursue this .

Does anyone else have any thoughts on this, the possibility or potential ?

These are two of the EMails from him in case you have no idea what I am referring to.

Hi All,

As far as my latest research data on Release Liners goes, all I can say is wow !

So it's no wonder that the future belongs to the clever label. The consulting firm A.T.Kearney (Chicago) forecasts that using the chips would allow trade to increase its profits by seven percent. "RFID represents the greatest opportunity for the self-adhesive products industry in the next ten years", expects Jules Lejeune, Managing Director of FINAT (The Hague, Netherlands), the European association dedicated to the self-adhesive labeling industry. No less than 27 billion m2 of release liners were sold on the world market in 2004 practically the size of Belgium or 2.7 million football pitches

http://www.degussa.co.uk/en/products/archive/2005_09_07_labels.print.html

The huge opportunity that is RFID tags, will need a Release Liner, says it all really :)

Cheers,
Paul


The market for release liners looks like a nice one to me :)

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Release liners account for about $1.8 billion in annual sales across North America. Douglas-Hanson holds a 10 percent share of the $660 million contract release-liner market, the company says, and is a leader in film-based linersa field that's growing at 8 to 12 percent a year.

http://www.convertingmagazine.com/cgi-bin/current.cgi?view=3_05_32.html

http://www.douglas-hanson.com/

Hi JJS,
So far we have all concentrated on the plastic wrappings for meat, fish and salads really, but we always did debate the innumerable uses there were for SEO products in just about anything we throw away!!
Personally, I feel SEO has a bit of a problem just now with getting one or two ideas to market, without them going for anything else, so I would be happy for them to concentrate on the "low hanging fruit" and showing some good profits.
I really do think that half the problem with SEO this past year has been taking their eye off the ball, because they had more ideas and avenues than capable staff to pursue them.
That is why I like the licensing business model. It should clear their desks to move onto the next use for their technology. But hopefully, not till their desk is clear, Greenseal is in, Starpol is manufactured succesfully in bulk and the problems are past, otherwise it will be more false dawns, setbacks and grumbling investors.
Alan

Quite agree Alan

Slightly off topic has anyone seen that ASDA are rebranding and looking for a less working class or chavvy image.

The new face to front the rebrand......

Wayne Rooney the arch Chav

Hmmm.
Could join the list of bad business ideas somewhere around the Gerald Ratner statement, or Yahoo telling Google to bugger off.
Alan

Evening all,

Lots of talk of different ways in which SEOs technology can be used. For me I would like to see at least 1 revenue stream within 2006. Its all very good having the ideas but putting them into practice and generating profit is another game altogether.

I assumed there would be a large trade at the end of the day to explain the price movement today, nothing appeared.

At the packaging show yesterday it was remarked to me by one of the SEO staff, that (in his opinion) Stanelco are a bit light on the sales staff and they really could do with some more strength on the sales side. It was too busy at the time for me to go into a Q and A on this topic.

There are so many avenues open to them with potential product lines, I can well understand this. I hope SEO will look to address this situation, but without the cash flow, at what stage do you appoint new staff and increase your cost base? Requires smart management.

I immediately thought of PM1 !!! Well plenty of enthusiasm and highly motivated !

Not worried

Good morning to you all

This is my first post on this board, but I have been a long term follower of this thread, having read all messages from the beginning (until I squelched Blinger !!) I am also a long term holder of SEO having purchased a modest holding at 4p and then topped up along the way at 12p,14p and some at 16p and 20p.

Having held for this length of time , I am impressed with the progress this company has made, in the development of its products. This industry has an unlimited capacity in my eyes, with many potential avenues to explore if they can get their act together. I believe that the share price also has the potential for a decent run. If you look at other packaging suppliers i.e Rexam who make tin cans, their share price is at a sustainally higher level. If SEO can supply to the likes of Mcdonalds and Walmart then long term this will have a real effect on the share price and hence why we are all in this share.

Although I like the product lines, I am concerned at the way this company is being run. To me there are basic things that make companies successful, these are 1. having a good product - which we believe SEO have. 2. Being able to bring it commercially to the market - which I think the jury is out on 3. Good Marketing.

If I was in charge of SEO, my immediate priorities would be to sort the Greenseal situation with ASDA, this at the moment is the gauge in the market for SEO. I have been in other companies for my sins like Earthport and Planestation where eventually the city get fed up with tomorrows promises and pull support for the company, and I fear that the Greenseal situation is heading that way. Surely within 6 months the priority must have been to get more than two conversions I am aware of the alledged problems with the design of the machines - but feel more progress should have been made here. With such an important contract surely you work 24hrs a day 7 days a week to resolve it.

Finally a small point that has already been mentioned, but I would like to add my thoughts. I would have thought that if you attended an exhibition and see something you like, you take a brochure, the next step I would assume is that you will do some research into a company. In this day and age this to me means looking at the company website, and on this point I think the seo site is a disgrace. I am no computer wizard, but i have set up a comprehensive website for a sports club, including links, pictures etc. this can be done simply even following templates, and I fail to understand why they are not making more use of this marketing tool. Again it is a probably a 10,000 job to make it professional.

Summing up I am confident of the product, but unsure that the management have the capability to bring it to the market. I continue to hold as I feel they still have city support currently, but I think this is a share where you will need to think logially not emotionally.

Remember - he who panics last, gets the worse price

Prospector

Nice bit of exposure in yesterdays FT in an article re plastic bags "Howard White ,managing director of Stanelco ,which makes such bags from starch,said:"This is a way of being responsible to the enviroment while also saving millions of barrels of oil.""

Oh dear, the usual "I've been in Stanelco a long time but this is my first post" routine.

Biscuit,my post has more relevance to Stanelco than your inane post!

Why can't we all just get along...
Have a good weekend,
Time to relax, eat and drink too much and dream of good news next week.
Having spoken to a friend who went to the packaging show, I would'nt be too surprised to see something re the aquasol tape? in the next few weeks, I was very drunk/tired and don't remember the full facts- so won't/can't go into details.
Will try to substantiate what was said and post accordingly in due course- SO not ramping.
HONEST.
LOL

I heard that ASDA have been trialling the Aquasol tapes and labels for a very long time, so it's about time they made a deal there, although any deal at this jittery stage would be a good thing !

Biscuit

Assuming your post was aimed at me. I have no axe to grind with you. I am here to discuss my views on SEO. I should not be pillared for being in SEO for a long time without posting.

If you do not agree with me then please put your point of view.

What is your opinion of the management, products and website ?

Constructive comment would be welcome by all I am sure ?

Prospector

Couldn't agree more although I only post rarely. The website beggars belief for a serious company. All shareholders should bombard the management with their displeasure. (If they can find a way to contact them)

I like the sound of this :)

The source is Piranet courtesy of PM1

US trials get underway for Stanelco
27 Feb 2006
UK packaging company Stanelco has gained US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) food contact approval for its biodegradable packaging.

Trials of Starpol 2000 are now underway with US retailers.

According to Terry Robins, Stanelco chief operating officer: 'One of the biggest retailers in the US is trialling Starpol 2000 for food tray applications.'

Robins also confirms that a number of smaller US retailers are in trials with the product again, for applications in food trays.

As these trials are at a very early stage, full details are not yet available, but Stanelco says it will be keeping the market updated as trials progress.

Starpol 2000 is a biodegradable plastic material made from a blend of polylactic acid (PLA) and some of Stanelco's own polymers.

The product was first launched in the UK in October 2005, and has its main applications in the packaging of meats, fruits and vegetables.

Starpol 2000 can also be blown into a film grade and is injection mouldable, giving it potential applications in the manufacturing of bottles and film.