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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


aldwickk - 02 Aug 2006 20:43 - 18381 of 27111

Stanelco PLC
Daily Commentary


Our system posted a SELL-IF today. The previous BUY recommendation was made on 23.06.2006 (40) days ago, when the stock price was 8.5000. Since then SEO has fallen -48.82% .



A bearish pattern has developed and a SELL-IF alert is issued today. You will also see if we erred badly in our previous BUY signal. So a warning is in order. A confirmation in the next session means that the signal failed. You might lose a significant amount in this case. The following guidelines, however, may protect you from further losses. The task is now to confirm the validity of this bearish pattern. We ask your effort and time. A good starting point is to keep an eye on after-hours trading and futures trading to get preliminary hints about market direction. Related news, events, economic data, and the outlook of the world markets must be closely followed prior to confirmation session.

There are three possible cases of bearish confirmation. You have to follow the session closely to see if these cases will hold or not.

The market opens with a downward gap, signaling a bearish sentiment in the first case. Your benchmark will be the opening price. If the prices stay below the benchmark, sell your shares. Any black candlestick with a downward gap is a valid bearish confirmation criterion.

In the second case, the market opens at a level, equal to or above the previous days close. The benchmark is that closing price. If prices during the session stay below the benchmark, sell your shares. Any black candlestick closing below the previous days close is the second confirmation criterion.

If, however, in both cases, the prices during the session start going over the benchmark avoid selling.

The third case of confirmation is rarely observed. The market opens with a big upward gap suggesting a very bullish day, and the day ends with a black candlestick, but still closing above the previous days close. Such a day satisfies the third confirmation criterion and the closing price of the black candlestick is the benchmark.

If one of the three confirmation criteria is not fulfilled, or in case of a white candlestick or a doji on the confirmation day, the SELL-IF alert remains valid, however, without confirmation and the three confirmation criteria are then sought in the following day. The only exception is the long white candlestick. Any white candlestick following a SELL-IF alert makes the signal void and invalid.

The market looks strong on the short side as evidenced by recent price activity. So you may continue to carry the existing short positions. If the SELL-IF is confirmed, new short sale positions may be considered.




SELL-IF


4.3500
-0.3800 -8.03%

Candlestick Analysis
Todays Candlestick Patterns:
Black Marubozu
Bearish Three Outside Down




Today a Black Marubozu was formed. This shows that the sellers controlled the price action from the first trade to the last trade.
For more about this candlestick click here.

The last three candlesticks formed a Bearish Three Outside Down Pattern . This is a bearish reversal pattern that marks a potential change in trend. Though it is highly reliable confirmation is still recommended.
For more about this pattern click here.





ptholden - 02 Aug 2006 21:02 - 18382 of 27111

Anyone who takes any notice of the cack produced by British Bulls needs serious medical attention. The analysis is generally very hit and miss and should form no basis for investing, shorting or otherwise. Usually trotted out by rampers or de-rampers to support their argument. Mind you, they have got this one right, but considering the current SEO situation, that isn't too difficult.

I really should have shorted this from 16p when I advised a friend to sell (having been stopped out myself sometime previously). Now approaching the level I predicted two months ago. Sorry chaps, not being a smart arse, just ruefully reflecting on my lack of conviction (or courage!)

pth

cynic - 02 Aug 2006 21:45 - 18383 of 27111

easy giving others correct advice isn't it, but damn difficult to follow it yourself

oblomov - 02 Aug 2006 22:54 - 18384 of 27111



A more accurate indication possibly is the fact that investors queries are now being ignored.

kim, no answer - I assume no reply.

I indicated my worries about this a few weeks back, regarding my email correspondence with Mr Duggan.

If you read across the BB's it seems pretty widespread that queries from investors are not receiving replies. Even PM1 emailed SEO few days ago and has not received a reply - see his web site.

As I said a few weeks ago, this speaks volumes. I'm now coming round to the opinion that my money is lost for good and SEO are running scared.

Have we all been the victims of a con?

markusantonius - 02 Aug 2006 23:16 - 18385 of 27111

PTH, a "friend"? Jeez, that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me, amigo!! And yes, Oblomov, I think you could be right, above. Certainly a VERY expensive lesson for myself. Furthermore I am now seriously beginning to question the integrity of ALL: tipsters, independant reports, magazine articles, newspaper clippings, and so forth. Well, we all know the risks and that's why the warning messages are made loud 'n clear: the likes of "AIM, OFEX and low-cap stocks are part of UNREGULATED markets". Sadly herewith the results of what can go wrong.

Hey, over 18,000 posts on this pile of ****!

Oilywag - 02 Aug 2006 23:36 - 18386 of 27111

Oblomov

I've sent you an e-msil message via MAM.

Please read and comment if you would be so kind.

Thanks

The oily one

garyble - 03 Aug 2006 00:09 - 18387 of 27111

The darkest hour as they say!!!!

SP has returned to the region where it should have been. Potential still there especially IF ASDA, WM etc still interested.

No news putting the jitters into the nost hardy SEOites, combined with no replies from dear Sylvia could only spell doom....EH?

Oilywag - 03 Aug 2006 00:16 - 18388 of 27111

garyble

Have sent you a message via you mail box.

Please read and reply soonest

Thanks

The oily one

Haystack - 03 Aug 2006 00:34 - 18389 of 27111

A new share issue to raise cash soon?

kimoldfield - 03 Aug 2006 01:16 - 18390 of 27111

Sorry Oblo, been out all day, only just got back in: I have an early start again tomorrow but, as I have not had a reply from SEO, if I have time I will phone them. ASDA still mentioned on the Greenseal site so don't give up hope yet!
kim

garyble - 03 Aug 2006 07:11 - 18391 of 27111

Thanks Oily,

Message received and will reply.

oblomov - 03 Aug 2006 08:12 - 18392 of 27111


Thanks Kim.

Thanks Oily - received and have replied.

Oilywag - 03 Aug 2006 08:27 - 18393 of 27111

'Morning all

This was sent to the company three weeks ago.

"To whom it may concern

I have pasted an extract from your latest web site, which thank God is a great improvement on what existed before.

"Stanelco PLC, the RF (radio frequency) applications group announced on 24th March that it has signed a binding contract with ASDA for a 12-month exclusive agreement for the application of the Group's GREENSEAL tray lidding and thermoforming RF technology in the UK and Ireland."

My issue with the extract is that it deliberately seeks to be misleading to new visitors/researchers of Stanelco's products in that it does not make it clear that the agreement was signed in 2005. I am great believer in Stanelco products and hold a considerable number of shares, but excuse me being blunt, I think that this borders on gross negligence and should be corrected as soon as possible.

Given the history over the past eighteen months of over optimistic news releases, I just wonder when the company is going to take its responsiblities in accurate communications seriously.

I await your prompt response with interest.

Yours sincerely



The reply:

"Dear Mr

My apologies for the delay in replying.

Thank you for bringing the omission of the full date to our attention. This was an oversight on our part and will be rectified as soon as possible."

Best regards

Sylvia

The oily one

Oilywag - 03 Aug 2006 08:32 - 18394 of 27111

I am thinking of sending the following to the company as soon as I get back from teaching my yoga classes this morning

Please feel free to make constuctive comments/criticisisms as bluntly as you like:


Dear Sirs

"Stanelco is pleased to announce that the exclusive agreement between ASDA and Stanelco for Stanelcos GreenSeal technology has been extended for a further 12 months. The exclusivity of the agreement will be waived after the first machine has been installed in an ASDA pack house, which will allow Stanelco to then offer GreenSeal to non exclusive ASDA sites."

The following above statement raises many questions and many contributors to investment bulletin boards are extremely confused and some annoyed about its contents.

1. In a previous e-mail to your offices, I highlighted the fact that the announcement on your new web site about the exclusivity agreement with ASDA last year was not dated, thus giving the impression that this agreement was signed this year.

That error was subsequently corrected with an apology for the oversight, but how is it that the exact same mistake has been made with the above announcement? Why no date again?

2. Many investors feel that such a seemingly important announcement should not have been withdrawn after only about 24 hours. Who made the decision to post it, was that decision agreed with other directors and, if so, who made the decision to withdraw so soon and what drove that decision? This strange episode gives the impression of a degree of chaos, lack of quality control and effective communication both within the company and without. It is terrible PR.

3. Without knowing the intricacies of regulations controlling the release of RNSs, it is the opinion of many very concerned investors that this type of information which has a definite bearing on their investment decisions should have been made through an RNS as were so many other announcements some of which were a far too optimistic in their content in the past.

4. I was at the AGM, and was told that a Greenseal machine had been running for 16 hours a day without problems and the company expected to have a fully commercialised installation within eight weeks. That expired on the 27th June. Surely, if the company was that sure of its position at the AGM then a follow up announcement should have been made confirming that such an installation at an ASDA packing house had been achieved. And, as no such announcement has been made, are we to assume that the company was AGAIN being a little nae in its prediction.

5. Many investors are totally confused as to why, after extending ASDAs exclusivity for a further eight weeks at the end of the original period, and given the confidence at the AGM about the full commercialisation of a machine, it should be necessary for an additional 12 month exclusivity extension? Most investors now feel that, if it might take as long as 12 months to get a successful installation why else give ASDA this extra period - then the AGM statement was AGAIN hopelessly optimistic and further seriously damages the trust we have in the companys management. The fact that the exclusivity is to be waived as soon as a successful commercial installation has been achieved does little to dispel our fears about what is really happening behind the scenes. The directors should place themselves in the shoes of the companys investors.


6. Towards the end of last year ago an announcement was made about the trial of Starpol with ASDA which was to last three months. If a time period is given for the length of a trial, then most people would assume that a follow up announcement soon after the end of the trial period should also be made. Without it, there is conjecture as to what might have happened; successful, or not and leaving investors very uncertain about their investment in Stanelco.

This unhappy state of affairs is causing some worried investors to wonder whether ASDA have decided to walk away from Stanelcos products. Can the company please confirm that there is absolutely no problem whatsoever with its commercial relationship with ASDA and by extension its parent WalMart?

7. There is a widespread feeling that whilst the company may be very good at developing potentially world beating products, it is serious underperforming in getting them to market. A very simple example of this is the reluctance of the company to get a decent web site developed which shows a worrying lack of knowledge about this medias effectiveness in providing information direct to customers who wish not to contact it via phone or normal mail.

I believe that an investor was told that the company has more important things to think about than the development of the web site. This is the electronic and digital age where people demand instant information and if they cannot get it, they simply go to a competitor, even though Stanelco has patents on many of its products.

It seems that the company was partly provoked into improving the design and content of the web site by the number of referrals to the company from Paul Mastersons site. I wonder what sort of image and message that must have conveyed to potential customers that they could only get information from an enthusiastic investor and not the company itself. The management should bear in mind when they put their heads in the sand it exposes their arses as a target.

To me, personally, it is clear that there are several skills and awarenesses which the management do not appear to have and which they should acquire very soon by recruiting people who have them. Without them, notwithstanding the brilliant products, several people are predicting the sad demise of Stanelco PLC.

8. We are aware that answering this e-mail will take some management time, but hopefully these questions will graphically illustrate the real concerns of many investors about the quality of management and the manner, content and accuracy of the information in the companys communications over the past 18-24 months.

I, on behalf of many investors look forward to receiving the companys detailed response to each and every one of the above questions as soon as possible.

Alternatively, several investors have suggested that one or two directors meet with three investors to discuss their concerns in detail. We are quite happy to come to Southampton for this meeting and welcome the opportunity of being shown around to obtain a broader view of its operations.

The oily one

hewittalan6 - 03 Aug 2006 08:48 - 18395 of 27111

How about shortening it to;
Dear Sylvia,
What the F$%s going on here?
Oily.

It kind of sums up what we all want to know.
Alan

dawall - 03 Aug 2006 08:52 - 18396 of 27111

Oilywag good note, get it off to them although I suspect you won't get an answer. I e-mailed them got no answer and have since rung Sylvia twice being fobbed of each time that Martin Wagner was in back to back meetings in the US. One other option is some one could ring ASDA direct but whether you would get anything from them or compromise SEO's negotiating position I haven't quite figured out. I have Tony Ruane's number and I guess my view is coming around to the one that if SEO don't provide answers then investors are at liberty to dig as deep as they need to get them. If anyone has the time today to think this thru and make the call they are welcome to have the no. I may give SEO 1 final chance to respond though.

One remote possibility in all this is that trials and recent developments in the US have prgressed quite quickly and that SEO may be close to an initial (probably small) deal of some sort and are looking to tie the whole picture together. It could be that the ASDA statement confused this somewhat.

Also re-read some of this year's RNS's again yesterday and one thing stated (interims I think) was that Starpol is now selling in the US. Previously I understood that all Biotech Starpol had gone to SP Metal (for bags) and a small amount to a Swiss Pharma company. I wasn't aware SEO had actually started selling Starpol in the US. Does anybody know exactly what is being sold (Starpol wrap? / tray?) there was no communication from SEO as I remember.

Mad Pad - 03 Aug 2006 08:53 - 18397 of 27111

Go for it Yoga Man ,you might also ask a simple one"what has become of FDA approval for Starpol 3000?".I would be very surprised if you get answers more than" we will be updating the stockexchange soon"but hope I'm wrong.

hewittalan6 - 03 Aug 2006 08:56 - 18398 of 27111

No Point in ringing Asda.
Most of their senior staff are in conference in Harrogate.
this conference is for senior buying and sourcing management, which is kind of the area we would want to talk to, and this may be another reason why info about the Asda trial is hard to come by.
Might also be something to do with the whisper Pinnacle got.
Might not as well. Who knows?
Alan

dawall - 03 Aug 2006 09:00 - 18399 of 27111

Pinnacle what was the whisper you heard Alan refers to above?

hewittalan6 - 03 Aug 2006 09:06 - 18400 of 27111

Hes playing that very close to his chest, dawall. Given some abuse I got a couple of months ago, I can understand and respect that.
In my more wild and exuberant moments, I was wondering if the conference (organised a couple of weeks ago) was to inform buying and sourcing staff of a new strategy regarding packaging, and instructing them on its implementation. Asda may have requested that SEO keep mum until they rolled it out to the required staff and announce it to the public at large.
Pinnacle expected an announcement on Tuesday, which by coincidence is when the conference started (I believe), but the conference lasts till at least Saturday, so if this was what Pinnacle had heard, it may be Monday before anything can be said.
I Know its a wild fantasy, and logically I am most certainly way off the mark. Not least because my knowledge of the conference comes from my imaginary friend (who works at Asda)!!
Alan
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