Investors' Room :: Please suggest any Improvements you would like to see on AM - MoneyAM - Free Share Prices, Stock Quotes, Charts, News, Level2

Crocodile - 24 Jan 2003 22:24

There is a really good tech team here, lets give them some ideas for enhancements or to cure any bugs we find.

robber - 24 Jan 2003 22:28 - 2 of 220

any chance of user definable candle durations on intraday charts. IMO this was one (of a number of) big failings across the road and would be a huge step forward here.

say 1,2,5,15,30 and 60 mins

regards

Neil

hightone - 24 Jan 2003 22:39 - 3 of 220

How about some id into which threads you have read or posted on like colour dot next to thread or it highlights a different colour when mouse runs over it as all the threads seem to join onto each other. (-:.

HT.

TBS - 24 Jan 2003 22:40 - 4 of 220

Moving the chart pricing to the right hand side, very diffuclt to read where it is at the moment - already suggested to Ian by phone.

TBS

kajman - 24 Jan 2003 22:49 - 5 of 220

Hi, I've found this place at last.

This may be a personal thing but I find the fixed font in the BB much harder to read than a proportional one.

kaj

Haystack - 24 Jan 2003 23:43 - 6 of 220

Well, I have looked at ADVFN and this BB and they both have fixed font in the BB. The list of threads is in proportional font on both of them.

CyberPost - 24 Jan 2003 23:48 - 7 of 220

Just noticed there is no "N" on certain stocks on MoneyAM stockwatch i have created. I noticed this because I track these stock on advfn.

eg today there were RNSs' for ELH, RGU and PIZ, for example, but there is no "N" displayed next to the stocks and in fact when you click on the epic there are no RNS headlines when in fact there were RNSs' issued today for these stocks.

kajman - 24 Jan 2003 23:55 - 8 of 220

Haystack - I know A***N BB also uses fixed font - maybe this site has just copied them without considering a more readable font.

Fixed is necessary if you want to post something in tabular form. I think the best solution would be to provide tags to turn fixed font on for a post when required.

kaj

Haystack - 24 Jan 2003 23:59 - 9 of 220

kajman
Have you tried inserting some html?

robber - 25 Jan 2003 00:12 - 10 of 220

kajman, theres no need to use the ***'s. No one gets banned here for posting the name of a competitor. Even ADVFN.

Or am I tempting fate?

:-)

kajman - 25 Jan 2003 00:15 - 11 of 220

Well I had never thought of that. Yes that's very clever so now I can
read my own posts clearly. I just need to persuade everyone else to do the same thing.
Trouble is, this is likely to cause people to show off with all sorts of special effects,
which would completely miss the point. I think that sort of behaviour should not
be encouraged in fact it should be stamped on heavily.

Juzzle - 25 Jan 2003 00:25 - 12 of 220

I just want clickable URLS within posts. Is that not possible on this site?

kajman - 25 Jan 2003 01:09 - 13 of 220

Like this?

http://www.divstivs.plus.com/iconwar/

Juzzle - 25 Jan 2003 01:54 - 14 of 220

Yep. How come mine don't do that?
What do I have to add to an ordinary URL?
I can't see anything in the Help area. Is it there somewhere?

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 25 Jan 2003 04:27 - 15 of 220

Juzzle,
this will hopefully be changing shortly,

In order to make the clickable until then, enclose them like:
&lta href="http://www.website.com">what text you want clickable</a>

and it will produce:
what text you want clickable

hope this helps.

J.

doolally - 25 Jan 2003 07:51 - 16 of 220

More news would be good, it seems that the archive started when the web site did.
doo

kyoto98 - 25 Jan 2003 08:24 - 17 of 220

I'd like to see stockwatch page news announcements done in a better way. Nothing-Ventured's monitor doesn't display an "A" or "N" icon, but instead displays the time of the last announcement, (which is highlighted with a coloured background for 10 minutes). This makes announcement's easy to spot (in fact, it's linked to AFX and newspaper/other reports as well which is even better). The way ADVFN and MoneyAM do this makes it difficult to pick up on any subsequent announcements after the first.

It's such a simple idea but I find myself subscribing to N-V's streaming monitor just for this feature.

kyoto98 - 25 Jan 2003 08:25 - 18 of 220

edit: double post

Socrates - 25 Jan 2003 10:05 - 19 of 220

I'd like to see a button or link to companies websites. I'm sure people who post would be happy supply them to save AM having to find them. Could this be a potential revenue source?

Biffer - 25 Jan 2003 15:51 - 20 of 220

End of day data downloads please!

teletiger - 25 Jan 2003 17:22 - 21 of 220

Can we keep the buy/sell/?%'s on the stockwatch page please.

Many thanks

Wisebeast - 25 Jan 2003 19:24 - 22 of 220

I've been busy last week, didn't have chance to pop in. Impressed by the revamped, more visual stockwatch. Moving around now, getting familiar.

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 25 Jan 2003 20:55 - 23 of 220

Biffer,

Data downloads are something that has been mentioned before and is something I am looking to provide, I will look in more detail at this during this week. If you have not heard anything by Friday, can you please email me: jonathan@moneyam.com...

Thanks,

J.

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 25 Jan 2003 20:57 - 24 of 220

teletiger,

The buy/sell/%'s *are* on the stockwatch page?

If you click on StockWatch, and then 'customise this watchlist' you will see them in the available fields box?

If you have any problems, please contact support@moneyam.com

J.

lesk - 26 Jan 2003 14:31 - 25 of 220

Any mileage in a box on create thread that allows you to post simultaneously on both the Investors and traders threads - ie a 'mutual' thread as it does seem a little daft to have to read two threads where often information is duplicated??

Insider trader - 26 Jan 2003 15:58 - 26 of 220

Croc, Mike, techies at AM,

Have you any plans to have the ability to click on an individual stock name, not epic, to be directed to a thread devoted to that particular stock for discussion, information, etc? I think it would be an asset to your site.

mbbcat - 27 Jan 2003 07:52 - 27 of 220

heatmaps as in http://screening.nasdaq.com/heatmaps/heatmap_100.asp

time configurable scans - (ie risers / fallers in last xx minutes etc)

mbbcat - 27 Jan 2003 07:53 - 28 of 220

oh yes & an api to drive metastock pro etc ( pretty pls)

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 27 Jan 2003 09:52 - 29 of 220

Homer,

What problems are you having with the streaming? It is no use just saying it isnt working.

What is happening when you try (symptoms)
What system setup do you have?
Are you behind a firewall? If so, what type? (personal, corperate?)

If you are behind a corperate firewall, there is a probability that it is blocking you from accessing the streaming server ports. And in which case, a fix for this will (hopefully) be going in place tonight...

Thanks,

J.

kajman - 27 Jan 2003 10:41 - 30 of 220

Please can we have UKX allowed in our watch lists on the stockwatch page.

Andy - 27 Jan 2003 12:07 - 31 of 220

Why no have a facility where, if you click on, say, the EPIC box, you are directed to any, or the most recent Shares Mag articles for that particular company?

There are others ways this could be done, but would certainly differentiate this site from others if it could be done.

ChaosT - 28 Jan 2003 07:26 - 32 of 220

Hate to be the boring fundamentalist here, but are we going to see more info on the Research tab?

You see, i am still having to go to the 'other' place for company analysis, which is far more detailed.

Surely we can get the same info they can - if its a question of money - i don't mind paying! ;)

FelixMoneyAM - 28 Jan 2003 10:09 - 33 of 220

To answer charts question- variable bar periods and configurable
left/right axes are on the wishlist.
I actually plan a scheme where the system estimates a sensible bar period
based on the size of the graph, then to let you configure it manually if
that still doesn't give enough control. Suggestions welcome for what system
should do if user selects a wildly inappropriate period. Maybe I'll have a
'period selector' dropdown where 'auto' is the default.
Currently focus is on adding more indicators,
F

Treblewide - 28 Jan 2003 10:17 - 34 of 220

streaming ukx prices are a must and they should be allowed on the watch list as Kajman mentioned

Treble

SMHarman - 28 Jan 2003 11:00 - 35 of 220

The portfolio section column widths.

Perhaps I am the only one losing money around here (LOL), but the % change and P/L Totals both have column withs that result in the - sign being shown on the line above.

Also as we seem to be able to mention competitors, it would be nice if threads about a stock could be grouped in the same way the do at iii.co.uk.

SMHarman - 28 Jan 2003 11:02 - 36 of 220

Your portfolio section throws this up

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if you try to add a stock valued at 2p. It works ok if you value at 2.0p duh.

Haystack - 28 Jan 2003 11:04 - 37 of 220

Maybe UKX is allowed on an account with a higher subscription rate, I am not sure.

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 28 Jan 2003 11:18 - 38 of 220

Haystack,

You can not have delayed prices on a StockWatch that contains live prices...

If you have a subscription that allows live indices, then you can indeed have UKX on your StockWatch...

Hope this is of some use.

J.

Titanium22 - 28 Jan 2003 11:40 - 39 of 220

The site is already excellent, given the short period since official launch - but here are a few thoughts.

Fundamentals: have already been mentioned, but it would be good to have brokers consensus/forecasts/major shareholders etc...

Stockwatch: the column widths are too wide and (as has been mentioned before) although you can adjust them manually, the settings aren't saved. Also, I would like the option to move the chart/trade/news icons from the left of the screen as at present to the right of the screen and in the reverse order i.e. N first - plus there are currently no columns for XD or trade type (although this appears on the trades page). My Monitor on ADVFN also shows the UKX in real time at the top (but perhaps that's because I'm a L2 subscriber??) rather than the delay shown here.

URLs: it would be helpful if URLs on the message boards were automatically "live" without the need to wrap them in HTML to create a hyperlink.

Help Section: it would be useful to have guidance on basic formatting when posting messages. Most of it can be found by checking the source code, but there must be many members who still wonder how to use bold/italics or to post a chart, for example.

News: the lack of archive material is a bit of problem at present. If there's a trading update or new set of results from a company, you have to go to another site to enable any comparison with previous statements.

Futures: the Indices (DOW, Nasdaq and S+P500) seem to be on a 1hr+ time delay.

Sorry for the long shopping list, and many thanks for what you have already achieved....!! :))

T22

Felix(MoneyAM) - 28 Jan 2003 11:57 - 40 of 220

Thanks for identifying portfolio problem -
as you say, entering a price of "2" crashes it,
but "2.0" or "3" is fine. Will fix this.
F

Felix(MoneyAM) - 28 Jan 2003 12:31 - 41 of 220

...OK, it's fixed.
F

Harvey - 28 Jan 2003 13:14 - 42 of 220

Any chance of having Point & Figure for Daily and intr-day charts?

Harvey

LOGICA2ME - 28 Jan 2003 13:39 - 43 of 220

When you are in a thread, you need another button at the bottom so that you can go "back to list" without having to scroll to the top of that thread to get back to the BB

CyberPost - 28 Jan 2003 13:52 - 44 of 220

felix

i have discovered a flaw in the display of prices (bid and offer). Like advfn you have 3 colours for the price display (bid and offer). Red to show its gone down from previous price. Green to show no change and Blue to show its risen from the previous price. Problem with MoneyAM's price display that it gets reset to green every time the page is refreshed, say clicking on "N" for stock and then going back to your stockwatch, the bid and offer prices all return to the colour Green. Advfn doesnt do this and 'remembers' the colours so you know whether the bid/offer prices are rising/fallling/unchanged.

Time Traveller - 28 Jan 2003 17:20 - 45 of 220

Is it possible to have the trades on the trades page colour coded so that you can see at a glance whether the trades look like buys or sells? If it is could you make the entire line either red, blue or green to make it very obviuos to the idiots like me?
Thanks,
TT

Just noticed that the previous post is about colours also. Told you I was and id...

Diogenes - 28 Jan 2003 17:57 - 46 of 220

I've set up a sample portfolio and find that there are 2 little quirks on the Portfolio section:

1. The portfolio includes cash (well, 4.65). The end of day valuation of the portfolio is out by 4.65 because it is not adding the cash to the value of the shares.

2. The summary says 10 assets, value 51,502.66. (Actually, there are 11 assets, 10 shares and the 4.65.)
Then it says:
Today 51,378.32 124.34 0.2%
1 week 51,715.76 etc.

Shouldn't 'Today' read 'Yesterday' or 'One day ago'? Today's value is 51,502.66. Yesterday's value was 51,378.32, and it has increased by 124.34 today.

8 Ball - 28 Jan 2003 18:43 - 47 of 220

Some very good ideas in previous posts.

Would like to see following.

List of major shareholders.
Shares mag archives by epic.(maybe added to news section)
Company web site addresses.

Better layout of the bb's Dare I say more like ADVFN, with visited threads and created ones highlighted in various colours.
I find the bb somewhat cluttered at present.

lesk - 28 Jan 2003 22:52 - 48 of 220

I am finding it difficult to remember which thread titles I follow and ones I've never visited - any chance we can have some form of recognition system that makes it quick to go to threads your following, or involved in.. :@)

Andy - 29 Jan 2003 01:42 - 49 of 220

lesk,

I think I've seen you on the MMD thread!

Only another 6.5 hours to go!

Mr Ashley James - 29 Jan 2003 01:47 - 50 of 220

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Andy - 29 Jan 2003 07:22 - 51 of 220

Ashley,

I think back to when the BB's were fun and educational places to be, and to be honest we were in the bull market then. This bear market is a killer, and interest in stocks and shares is currently very low.

Some have sufferered real pain, IMHO, and that explains some of the behaviour on some threads, I think.

To be fair, AM is new, and there is surely a honeymoon period to give them time to improve the site?

Again, discussion on equities is Very low on all BB's at the moment, down to most of them falling in value I guess. I noticed a difference on iii when TAD had a good run, some old faces came out of the woodwork, number of posts noticeably rose, but have vanished now that the price has fallen back.

The cameraderie from 2 years ago just isn't around at the moment, but would return, I'm sure, if/when the market turns around again.

I agree that the Trader's Room has less posts than I would like, and hope that it will improve with time.

It's been a long night, so off home now!

Andy.

alecm - 29 Jan 2003 07:58 - 52 of 220

Do i take it, that i have to pay ,just to use the 'Trader's BB'..??

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 29 Jan 2003 08:07 - 53 of 220

alecm,

Yes, to use the Traders' Room, you need to become a paid subscriber. The Traders' Room is available at all paid levels, including the 5/month one.

J.

alecm - 29 Jan 2003 08:15 - 54 of 220

??? is'nt that a bit strange.? surely if you were going to charge for something , then it would be 'real-time' prices, not the use of a BB..?? this BB is a dead loss at the moment, virtually un-used, (but that is down to site being new.)

Hmmm have to have a think about this now....

Dont mind paying for services, (as i do on ADVFN already,) but to pay just to use a BB..??

Think i will look again in a month or two....

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 29 Jan 2003 08:23 - 55 of 220

alecm,

In the Traders' Room, there are regular indepth discussions on stocks and shares, and of course there is Croc's Legendary Traders Thread.

On a facilities basis, for 5 a month, you get our Alerts service, which sends emails when prices hit your criteria, Market Scan 2, and the ability to read and post onto the Traders' BB. Not a bad deal at all :)

J.

alecm - 29 Jan 2003 08:35 - 56 of 220

Tullettj, i already get alerts etc, free from my broker (Which go to my Mobile), i know what you are saying about the discussion, it should be of a high standard, but a high %age of the posters on there, post very similar stuff on ADVFN, but i did not need to tell you that , did i..?

IMO, to compete in a market, you need to better your oposition, and indeed i think you may well do in the long run, but at this present time, i myself cannot see the need to pay for the same thing twice...

IMO, you will have substancially more down time in the next few months than the 'other' site, this is because your site is so new , and things will appear, it is unnavoidable, indeed you were down yesterday, so at this moment in time i need the 'other' site.....

Wish you all the best.....

Alec....

P.S

You will get there, of that i am certain, wish you good luck......

Who knows, i may subscribe earlier than i think, but will just watch for now....

Mr Ashley James - 29 Jan 2003 08:39 - 57 of 220

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alecm - 29 Jan 2003 08:42 - 58 of 220

Ashley, so not all is as it seems in there then..???

alecm - 29 Jan 2003 08:43 - 59 of 220

What do they prefer chatting about then..?

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 29 Jan 2003 08:49 - 60 of 220

alecm,

Actually, site site was not down yesterday, there was a glitch with streaming for a while (but the site remained up, but upon roll back to the non port80 fixed version, all was fine. It appears that some web-caches (otherwise known as transparent proxies) at companies like NTL, Blueyonder etc etc cached the downsite page, and would not refresh to get the fully functioning website.

I have put in place code to stop this happening in future as it was infuriating for us and misleading to our customers!

As for more downtime, yes, there will be more *scheduled* downtime while we put in place more services, and increase our resiliance and redundancy, but as for unscheduled downtime, I hope the team at MoneyAM have learned from all the design and setup mistakes that ADVFN made and wont repeat them here...

I guess only time will tell...

J.

ps: Scheduled downtime will always to out of market hours!

Mr Ashley James - 29 Jan 2003 08:52 - 61 of 220

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alecm - 29 Jan 2003 08:55 - 62 of 220

Tullettj, all i was getting was a big blue screen with your logo on it saying site is getting maintenance, try again shortly.....

Just had a look at the titles on the 'Traders Thread' out of the first 45 threads, about five were directly aimed at a specific stock....(now where have i seen that before..??? (PBB) ADVFN..?? and i certainly would not pay to use that....

alecm - 29 Jan 2003 08:57 - 63 of 220

Cheers Ashley, so i takr it , it is not good.....

Money am, think this is going to be a problem, hope you sort it soon.....

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 29 Jan 2003 08:57 - 64 of 220

Mr Ashley James,

Can you please point out to me, either on here or in mail: jonathan@moneyam.com where all these personal attacks are happening.

Obviously, if this is the case, then action will be taken.

Thanks,

J.

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 29 Jan 2003 08:58 - 65 of 220

alecm,

The blue screen was due to the caching issue and was totally out of our control.

I have now put in place code to stop that happening again...

J.

Mr Ashley James - 29 Jan 2003 09:06 - 66 of 220

Alec,

Well it has done me a favour, it has put me off BBs anyway.

Shares Talk content 1/100, which is a surprise because I thought Shares Magazine were going to inject some content.

Also normal us and them trader/investor divisions which are so mutually destructive, especially noting ADVFN PBB has died, and most ADVFN posters now just post on FBB Day, Shorters and Minters Threads.

The days of a BB being for research seemed to have flown straight past AM's business plan, more a huddled club of traders looking for mutual support.

I think we have to accept that there really are not enough people left who even consider investing or trading in equities is worth while to support three main websites ADVFN, AM and III.

I think people will pay for content and functionality, in the absence of either I am not sure what they are expected to pay for.

Even FTSE 100 feed is 15 minutes delayed-pathetic or what?

Cheers

Ash

alecm - 29 Jan 2003 09:12 - 67 of 220

Tullettj, that is exactly what i am saying, things beyond your control...You cant account for these, that is why i am waiting, i cant see the logic to paying for something that is not proven....i am not saying that i do not like your product, quite the contrary, it is the case that it is not 'safe', if you know what i mean...

As for the 'Traders' BB, think i can live without a second PBB to be fair i wish it was like the FBB but without the idiots.......

What about offering something like a 'X' amount, day trial, as an offer, so that people can make their own minds up, have a look at the new things they will get , just so they know, just limit it to one trial per person, even do it for a couple of hours.....

Did'nt the price of Level 2 drop a while back..? i stand to be corrected on that , but your prices seem to mirror the 'other' site, but for lot less product (at the moment).

Alec...

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 29 Jan 2003 09:20 - 68 of 220

alecm,

We are not currently offering Level2, nor do we have prices for that product displayed anywhere...?

J.

Mr Ashley James - 29 Jan 2003 09:21 - 69 of 220

Johnathan,

I have sent Mike Boydell your Managing Director at least four emails in the last 48 hours, plus several others over the first two months but it appears that due to a long standing friendship with a Mr Johnathan Simms alias Dead Cat Bounce, also a close personal friend of Clem Chambers he does not want to deal with it.

Clem's posts on ADVFN PBB have a certain logic, We have our own secret weapon Ashley James, meaning if we send the boys round to MoneyAM, afterall they have left the door wide open, and they attack and harrass AJ, he will react, the traders will then return to the fold appalled by the ensuing commentry, he was indeed entirely correct with his strategy, AJ will react after six weeks of provocation, being called a lier, having his integrity questioned.

The bottom line, if you are a cronie of Mike Boydell, is that you can post what you want, however abusive, however if you are an outsider on the receiving end, forget it, the clique will win against anyone from the outside world.

In fact please do not post on shares or spend time injecting content, MoneyAM want an exclusive club, exclusive that is to anyone not in the inner circle, or whom is not a fully fledged GNI Day Trader.

There are only so many times you can ignore impartial policing of BBs when you have sold a monitored BB policy to the outside world.

Really, at this stage of the proceedings, to say I was not impressed would be being kind.

Cheers

Ashley

alecm - 29 Jan 2003 09:22 - 70 of 220

Ash, that has always amazed me, you can get any feed APART from FTSE for free...that still gets me smiling, but the FTSE feed from the LSE, still has to be paid for by some one, and it aint cheap......

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/distributors/realtime.asp

i looked into it for someone, who is setting up YET another of these sites, with an American backer, dont think it will be long until that one appears either....

There aint enough people to go around (ADVFN,III,am).? i totally agree, that is why i am a bit suprised that am is charging people to use a BB...

Lets look at it another way, ADVFN charge for PBB, now totally useless and un-used, III in the same boat, anyone see a pattern forming..??? AM, why is yours going to be so different..?? i cant see it....

Mr Ashley James - 29 Jan 2003 09:32 - 71 of 220

Alecm,

Exactly, I pointed this out day one, was ignored, a far wiser strategy would have been to have had one BB day one, then offer access to a separate traders room after 90 days when functionality up and running serviced out of a monthly subscriptions.

This would enable you to gain critical mass day one of postings volumes, leveraged off loyal trader cronies, which would have attracted remaining investors and ADVFN type FBB clientelle for the first time able to follow the day traders threads in it's full glory.

Personally I would have charged everyone for BB use day 1 5 plus VAT after a 30 day cancellable trial period perhaps.

Now we have the worst of both worlds, a divided community, neither with critical mass, nor sufficient content or vibrancy playing both ends off against the middle, ie not knowing if ADVFN or MoneyAM will win out, a foot in both camps.

Meanwhile the market is systematically reducing the number of people even interested in shares by the day.

Is anybody out there in touch with the current stockmarket and economic collapse?

Hello-ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo?

Cheers

Ash

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 29 Jan 2003 09:33 - 72 of 220

Mr Ashley James,

I have just been speaking with our Customer Services Manager about this matter, and we both agree that there are more people than just Mike who:
a) can deal with abuse on the bulletin boards.
b) *want* to deal with abuse on the bulletin boards.

Personal attacks will not be tolerated, it isnt always going to be possible for us to read every single post, which is why we have moderators and why it is good for other users to report these to us!

Please email support@MoneyAM.com any potential breeches on the BBs and they will be dealt with appropriately!

J.

alecm - 29 Jan 2003 09:36 - 73 of 220

Ash, i agree...

Lets look at it another way, i am new to this site, i look , i like, but the BB, is virtually un-used, i ponder, i know, i will look at the other one, AAhh, problem, i cant without paying...Do i pay for something i cannot look at..??

People should be charged a 5 sign on fee, then after say, 60 or 90 days, they pay 5 per month, that way they can see what they are paying for...

Alec......

Mr Ashley James - 29 Jan 2003 09:49 - 74 of 220

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Haystack - 29 Jan 2003 09:57 - 75 of 220

I use the Traders room and find it very useful. It has been running for a few months now due to beta testing. A community has developed and the posters there are very helpful, polite and generous to each other. Ashley has his own battles to fight, some of which may be of his own making. Apart from Ash and his various combatants, there is no aggravation at all there.

There are useful threads on Technical Analysis, Sharescope and other software packages, US stocks, Crocodile's Traders thread which gives an insight into day trading and is a very useful learning tool. There are discussions on particular stocks and general chat about trading and investing techniques. It is a fantastic source of information. If you ask a question about the LSE, day trading, technical analysis or something that is pretty obscure about stocks, then you can expect to get an answer there. If you invest money in stocks then 5 a month is a not significant cost. That's about 1 a week. You can subscribe to it and if you don't like it then cancel it. It is not like ADVFN here. You can cancel whenever you want.

Because of the connection with Shares magazine, I am expecting to see more input to the site from their journalists. That is something which will make this site different from others.

alecm - 29 Jan 2003 09:58 - 76 of 220

ASh, people WILL pay for info, but they have to know what sort of info they are going to get..!!!

Who wants to pay for half the threads on the Traders Thread..???

Truth is, i would probably only read less than 10% of them, and the other BB is deserted, so not looking good is it..???

Orion - 29 Jan 2003 10:00 - 77 of 220

I would like to see a historic list of Director Dealings & up-to-date lists of Major shareholdings for all stocks.
Cheers.

Kayak - 29 Jan 2003 10:00 - 78 of 220

Ashley: "One of the most telling things about the Traders Room ... lack of posts on most threads other than trading threads...". Now is that really surprising? Get a grip mate, you're an investor not a trader, no wonder you're not happy there. In fact as an investor you're not happy at all today, which is why you're attacking everyone in sight this morning!

alecm - 29 Jan 2003 10:05 - 79 of 220

Haystack, that is the problem , one person says one thing you say something completely different, my problem is, that at this present moment i need ADVFN, this site is not 100% reliable, it COULD go down any time, (but unlikely...) so why pay twice.?

IMO, am's approach is wrong, they should not be charging for either BB (apart for the 5 sign on fee), BUT they should be charging for Real Time prices, after all that is where their main expense is...

Haystack - 29 Jan 2003 10:18 - 80 of 220

ADVFN have the same model. They charge for the PBB and the FBB is free. Kayak is correct in that the Traders room will appeal to traders rather than investors. The Investors will not be like the FBB. The FBB is supposedly an investors BB, but is constantly trashed by the crazies. They start hundreds of QXL threads, they abuse each other, they start racial battle threads and generally bahave badly. I cannot see this happening here. AM won't sit by and tolerate such behaviour.

It may be that you do not need the Traders room BB for your needs. You may need or like Level 2 when it arrives. I can see it being cheaper than other sites, but I have no insider knowledge of the proposed prices. One thing I am sure of, is that this site will be much more reliable and stable than it's competitors due to it's technology being different. Their streaming runs now and will run on more platforms including Mac, Unix, Linux etc than any others.

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 29 Jan 2003 10:18 - 81 of 220

alecm,

What parts of the site are not reliable? I obviously need to look more closely at those sections.

Any site *could* go down at any time, and the only way of minimising this is to reduce as many single point failures as possible which we are always doing. By the same token, ADVFN could also go down at any time, so im not sure what your point is...

Is there something I am obviously missing? (im not talking about the billing/charging issues here, purely technical...)

J.

Mr Ashley James - 29 Jan 2003 10:24 - 82 of 220

Kayak,

Actually I did not even realise the market had dropped as much as it had, I have only just realised, now I am well mift (;-o !

No reason I popped was as simple as DCB.

Which really frustrates me because I do not even mind the bloke, met him a couple of times briefly, and can not understand why he has been so upset to post as he does.

Anyway I have told MB to give him my home tel no so he can abuse me face to face and keep it off the boards, preferably sort his problem with me out man to cat or whatever.

Cheers

Ash

Mr Ashley James - 29 Jan 2003 10:26 - 83 of 220

Haystack,

The point being to have access to Traders Room for a 5 plus VAT pcm is peanuts.

Cheers

Ash

alecm - 29 Jan 2003 10:34 - 84 of 220

Tullettj, have i touched a nerve..?

i know exactly what you are saying regarding Downtime, in cant be avoided sometimes...

My point..? ADVFN, did not introduce Some of their charges until it had been proven, IE streaming, but to me you(am) are doing it the other way round...IE charging for the product , then see if you like it....

Apologies if i am annoying you, but i feel it does no harm talking about things.....

Alec...

Haystack - 29 Jan 2003 10:41 - 85 of 220

alecm
No. That is definitely not the case. The PBB on ADVFN was always charged for. Streaming came along very late in ADVFN's history. Most of the new features on ADVFN have been implemented over the last year. Level 2 was not available for quite some time.

alecm - 29 Jan 2003 10:43 - 86 of 220

I know the PBB was always charged for , and it was hardly ever used....look at it now, it is DIRE..!!!!!!

Haystack - 29 Jan 2003 10:44 - 87 of 220

It is dire because the bulk of the sensible posters are over here on the Traders BB.

Kayak - 29 Jan 2003 10:53 - 88 of 220

alecm, the PBB ended up as a traders' BB rather than a premium BB. This is imho because those willing to pay 5, or getting it as part of a level 2 or whatever package, tend to be active traders. In a traders' BB you won't find detailed commentary on individual stocks. That is because traders deal in dozens or even hundreds of stocks, and they would not have the time or the inclination to carry out research, post, or even read detailed posts on single shares. I suspect that like Ashley you are probably looking for other like-minded investors, in which case the Investors' BB is for you. The Traders' BB is not intended to be a better version of the Investors' BB. On ADVFN that was the original idea, but it rapidly became a traders' BB.

However one major difference is that the Investors' BB here will be policed to ensure it does not fall to the level of ADVFN's FBB.

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 29 Jan 2003 11:23 - 89 of 220

alecm,

Touched a nerve? No! Im just a little protective about my systems :)

Sometimes downtime cant be avoided, but you can do everything in your power to minimise it or the possibility of it, which is why we have not made any of the same mistakes in our systems setup...

There is no charge here for streaming, you can get it as a free user, in fact, you can use most of the products as a free user (including one of the BBs) and the streaming here *has* been proven...

Don't apologise, Im enjoying the discussion :)

J.

lesk - 29 Jan 2003 11:23 - 90 of 220

phew!!... dogfights, just like on ADVFN and Sardinesplaice... :@D

Haystack - 29 Jan 2003 11:35 - 91 of 220

I wouln't call this a 'dog fight' at all. It has been very polite, non abusive and fair. There is a big difference between putting your side of things forcefully and being obnoxious. That differnce is the point at which things begin to deteriorate on a BB. There is active moderation here. That is AM will not just wait for complaints before doing something about personal attacks etc.

Mr Ashley James - 29 Jan 2003 11:39 - 92 of 220

Alec,

Seriously why bother arguing about a fiver a month plus VAT when you can lose thousands of pounds in minutes investing in the LSE?

Cheers

Ash (;-o

lesk - 29 Jan 2003 14:03 - 93 of 220

haystack - LOL!!!! Yes! I'm impressed your behaviour here is much much nicer than there!! seriously though, I hope the moderation is fair and across the board - would hate to see it being one rule for some, and none for others..

:@)

Haystack - 29 Jan 2003 15:13 - 94 of 220

I would expect the moderation to be the same for everyone. I am not given to personal attacks. I may well attack a particular company now and then if I think shareholders are being taken for a ride or the company is badly run or has very little prospects. Of course all three of these apply to some companies.

zzaxx99 - 29 Jan 2003 16:54 - 95 of 220

Because of the connection with Shares magazine, I am expecting to see more input to the site from their journalists. That is something which will make this site different from others.

Now I may have an out of date opinion here, as I haven't read the magazine for ages, but I did read it for about a year, until I gave up because it was.. well, crap, basically. The big problem for me was the number of huge, glaring inaccuracies in articles and news pieces - and, no I can't remember the specific details, though I do remember one that confused Viagra with a completely different drug, and another that talked about CFDs and it was apparent that the writer had no idea what they were (LATER: I remembered - the writer confused CFDs and non-residual shares - and no, I'm not making this up)

And this is the quality of input that is going to set this site apart?

Of course it may have improved out of all recognition since, but I await the content provided by the Shares contributors with a degree of scepticism.

alecm - 29 Jan 2003 17:02 - 96 of 220

Hi all, just got back in...

Ash, i am not arguing, just discussing, nothing wrong with that is there..?? regardless of the cost, whether 5 or 50, my point is the same....why pay for something you cannot see or sample..?? Surely you would not buy anything from a shop without looking into it, or trying it out..?? Would you buy a car without driving it first..?

TullettJ (MoneyAM) Phheew, that's ok then, dont want to get barred even before i sign up....lol lol

Let me make one thing clear, there is NOTHING wrong with your system , as i already have said, i think it will be the better of the three options so far, but cannot comment on the Fourth (if it arrives..) i know one of the people building it, and they are very particular, and money wont be the problem, but that is another story....As i say, this should be the best of the three we have, IMO, it is only time before the 'idiots' get the better of ADVFN....

Haystack - 29 Jan 2003 18:45 - 97 of 220

I'd like the ability to vote bear or bull on a company as can be done on quite a number of sites and a record be kept of overall opinion. There are certainly a few that I would vote against.

mikeshares - 29 Jan 2003 21:47 - 98 of 220

I need a realy good streaming chart 5 min ukx with MA.
I have check out your charts tonight but cannot get the ma on intraday. I am currently on the other side , but would change to moneyam for good reliable charts.

well done so far.

CyberPost - 30 Jan 2003 11:13 - 99 of 220

posting this again as the flaw still exists :

felix

i have discovered a flaw in the display of prices (bid and offer). Like advfn you have 3 colours for the price display (bid and offer). Red to show its gone down from previous price. Green to show no change and Blue to show its risen from the previous price. Problem with MoneyAM's price display that it gets reset to green every time the page is refreshed, say clicking on "N" for stock and then going back to your stockwatch, the bid and offer prices all return to the colour Green. Advfn doesnt do this and 'remembers' the colours so you know whether the bid/offer prices are rising/fallling/unchanged.

alecm - 30 Jan 2003 11:31 - 100 of 220

Why do i keep getting logged off..????

chrispoote - 30 Jan 2003 15:16 - 101 of 220

Some things I would like:
1) Russell 2000
2) daily puts and calls totals, which I can't seem to find anywhere online, not even LIFFE itself
3) UKX in the Stockwatch
4) full listing of ETF's
5) covered warrants listed by EPIC, not SEDOL. Take a look at Comdirect's coverage. I would like to compile a watchlist for CWs like I've got in The Other Place
6) in the UKX chart there is a 'specify period' function which I can't get to work. I type in a spread of dates but get the intraday chart or something.
7) there is no number 7. Yet.
Here's looking forward. All the best.

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 30 Jan 2003 15:23 - 102 of 220

alecm,

Do you have cookies enabled?

J.

Kayak - 30 Jan 2003 15:25 - 103 of 220

I get logged off around 5-6 times a day and I have cookies enabled...

Haystack - 30 Jan 2003 15:42 - 104 of 220

I get logged off a couple of times a day.

Felix(MoneyAM) - 30 Jan 2003 15:50 - 105 of 220

On charts, 'specify period' does work -you select this and then enter
your own dates in the 'from' and 'to' boxes. The dates have to be in
the same format as the auto-generated ones - if the system can't make
sense of the date, it will just give you a year's worth of data
by default.
Hope this helps
Felix

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 30 Jan 2003 16:06 - 106 of 220

Kayak,

I know why this happens!

I am speaking with Ian about how we can work around it..

J.

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 30 Jan 2003 16:19 - 107 of 220

Kayak, Haystack,

This problem is caused by browsers that allow completely seperate instances of them to be run, and when you kick off another instance.

There are two ways to start off internet explorer (which I am using in this description):
You click on the icon/button/entry in the program list, and to use CTRL-N on an existing window.

When using CTRL-N, it have access to the same memory pool, as it seems to be a child process of the original. In this case, if you have logged into MoneyAM in the parent, then you will also be logged in to MoneyAM in the child window.

If you have a window open, and you log in, and then click on the 'E' icon on the desktop and go to MoneyAM, you will no be logged in. This is due to it using a seperate memory pool and therefor not knowing anything about the session cookies available to the other version.

Did this make sense?

Bascially, to stop it appearing that you are logged out, only use 'CTRL-N' to start a new window after your initial one starts.

This isnt a bug with the site, but we are looking into other ways that we can get round this limitation...

J.

Kayak - 30 Jan 2003 16:28 - 108 of 220

Our problem is different I think, or at least mine is. I am happily logged in, with the page showing the thread index. I press refresh to find I have been logged out in the mean time. As it happens I am using ctrl-N to create windows anyway.

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 30 Jan 2003 16:32 - 109 of 220

Kayak,

Bum.

Grr.

will forward to IST... :/

J.

Titanium22 - 30 Jan 2003 16:44 - 110 of 220

I'm having exactly the same problem as Kayak - I refresh the page and find that I have been logged off. I have MoneyAM in a browser window created using Ctrl-N, as well.

T22

zzaxx99 - 30 Jan 2003 17:17 - 111 of 220

Yeah, my problem is different too. Several instances of IE running, including 2 used to access AM - 1 running streaming monitor, 1 I use to access various BBs (going round the houses of Hemscott, CityBull, the 2 AdvFN boards a few times before coming back to here). Many many times when I come back I've been logged out, despite using the same instance to browse.

It's very very very annoying. I used to have the same problem with FinanceBB, another semi-moribund BB, but they eventually fixed it.

Haystack - 30 Jan 2003 18:21 - 112 of 220

I also only use Ctrl-N to generate new windows.

oh baby - 30 Jan 2003 18:40 - 113 of 220

why cant i get american stock charts, and why are there no futures charts

britishbear - 30 Jan 2003 20:30 - 114 of 220

To know how many other posts there are to read at the bottom of the current page of messages (ala advfn of course).

rocket fuel - 30 Jan 2003 21:07 - 115 of 220

clicking on a name to see threads created by that poster should be adopted too.

MaxK - 30 Jan 2003 21:29 - 116 of 220

The price list, with an accurate description of what you get for your money would be nice.

Kayak - 30 Jan 2003 22:41 - 117 of 220

oh baby, do you work for ADVFN at all perchance?

MaxK - 30 Jan 2003 22:53 - 118 of 220

Sod off Kayak!

If moneyam are risking thier money on the likes of you...thier doomed!

Kayak - 30 Jan 2003 22:55 - 119 of 220

MaxK, "oh baby" wasn't an interjection, see post above by "oh baby"!!

MaxK - 30 Jan 2003 23:13 - 120 of 220

Kayak,

Go on then....show me the money! (costs)

Kayak - 30 Jan 2003 23:15 - 121 of 220

MaxK, MoneyAM hid it very well, but it's here: http://www.moneyam.com/sub.php

Haystack - 30 Jan 2003 23:36 - 122 of 220

Kayak
I thought 'oh baby' was an unusual term of endearment from you.

MightyMicro - 30 Jan 2003 23:55 - 123 of 220

Haystack: I would imagine that such an expostulation from Kayak would have been in Italian.

MM

Kayak - 30 Jan 2003 23:59 - 124 of 220

Mamma mia!

MightyMicro - 31 Jan 2003 00:03 - 125 of 220

Haystack: Told you so.

MM

PS: Kayak -- Mamma mia is hardly a faithful translation of "oh baby", is it? I expected something more, er, erotic and, well, Italian.

Kayak - 31 Jan 2003 00:07 - 126 of 220

It doesn't translate well :-)

MightyMicro - 31 Jan 2003 00:18 - 127 of 220

Ah, I understand.

MM

Titanium22 - 31 Jan 2003 08:49 - 128 of 220

There is an RNS Reach announcement by NXT (NTX) this morning, but there is no "N" flag showing against the company.

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/rns/announcement.asp?AnnID=560545

Is it possible for you to include RNS Reach in your news feed, please...??

T22

Scallywag - 31 Jan 2003 10:34 - 129 of 220

Can someone please clarify the situation for me vis a vis subscription levels and bulletin boards? As a Shares mag subscriber, it seems I get the 55 per yr subscription level for free (whatever it's called). This seems to allow me access to both the traders room and the investors room, but my only attempt to post on a thread in the traders room resulted in nothing happening - ie my post did not appear. Am I correct in thinking that I can access both rooms but only post in this one? If this post doesn't appear, I shall begin to feel persecuted......

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 31 Jan 2003 10:42 - 130 of 220

Scallywag,

As a Shares magazine subscriber you should be able to post on both boards...

Can you try again on the Traders' Room?

Thanks,

J.

Scallywag - 31 Jan 2003 11:47 - 131 of 220

Thanks TullettJ - it seems you're right, I can post on both. I don't know what happened to earlier post to the traders room - it just sunk without trace :-)

Felix(MoneyAM) - 31 Jan 2003 16:56 - 132 of 220

Just added Momentum indicator to charts.
Comments welcome
F

Kayak - 31 Jan 2003 16:57 - 133 of 220

Jon, just to report that occasionally when clicking on a thread from the thread index I get the login screen, even though in fact I was still logged in. I know that I was still logged in since if I go "Back" to the thread index and refresh it still shows me logged in. On clicking on a thread again it does not happen again.

hedge-hog - 31 Jan 2003 23:30 - 134 of 220

Am I the only one who finds it irritating to have to scroll to the bottom to read the latest message? Wouldn't it make more sense for the most recent to be the first ....
or have I missed something?

MightyMicro - 01 Feb 2003 00:33 - 135 of 220

hedge-hog:

Well, I guess it depends on what you're used to. The current format is regarded as "conventional" by most of the users who are here, although we did briefly experiment with a reversed order such as you suggest (last post at top of page). Most bulletin boards - in my experience - use this format.

Derek (IST and MoneyAM)

Haystack - 01 Feb 2003 01:09 - 136 of 220

I think that reading down is also a western habit as is reading from left to right. This of course strangely doesn't apply to the threads lists where the latest is at the top. It's a strange world.

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 01 Feb 2003 10:40 - 137 of 220

Kayak,

But on the login screen, does it say 'you are not currently logged in'?

J.

Kayak - 01 Feb 2003 11:45 - 138 of 220

Jon, I can't totally confirm that until it happens again, but I know that if I just press backspace rather than logging in again, I am still logged in. I think that this is a different problem from the random logout problem.

Haystack - 01 Feb 2003 13:10 - 139 of 220

Yes. That's what I have found. To make it clearer I have an interesting example. The logon screen comes up effectively telling me to log on again. However, if I have another window open for say the threads list on the Traders room then I can read one of the posts there and it shows I am logged on. I just close the logon window down and carry on and open new windows again. I thibnk that the logon screen is spurious and that I have not been logged off at all.

wragg1 - 02 Feb 2003 14:39 - 140 of 220

Is there a better way of presenting directors dealings ie a simple table that shows the value of shares, number of directors dealing and whether they bought or sold.
To open up each share in turn and read through all the guff to get to the relevant bits is just a waste of time.

Regards Martin.

archinvest - 03 Feb 2003 09:12 - 141 of 220

croc, my comments on the charting facilities:

1- allow for chart settings to be stored, usually in a cookie. and allow for more than one setting, i suggest at least 3 settings.

2- on candlesticks and large size and time span of 6 months the candlestick is shown pre-set to weekly one - the volume is shown as daily and appears spindly by comparison. i suggest that these preset values be for daily candlesticks up to one year. best allow for adjustment by user.

3- missing indicators: rsi, stochastics(fast and slow) and last but not least, bollinge bands. i wish to emphasise the importance of the latter.

4- ensure that all indicators and facilities work on intraday charts too.

Andy - 03 Feb 2003 10:46 - 142 of 220

Please change the background colour, or preferrably give each user the facility to change it to their own preferred colour.

niggle - 03 Feb 2003 10:54 - 143 of 220

The site is too wide, on the portfolio pages i need to scroll from left to right, surely this ain'y right?

phobos - 03 Feb 2003 16:16 - 144 of 220

Re niggles post,yeah I find that a bit of a pain too,also (and I did ask this on the "bugs" page,on Thursday,still no reply)how do you add "ISF" to the stockwatch thingy ?????????

Kayak - 03 Feb 2003 16:39 - 145 of 220

Jon, right, more info on this logout problem:

1. It appears to be more likely to happen when one does not use the window for some time.

2. Interesting sequence of events today. Two windows open, one to Traders' Room and one to Investors' Room. Refreshed a thread in TR, login screen came up. Login screen however said "currently logged in as Kayak". Didn't do anything, moved to IR window which was on thread list and refreshed that. Top of thread list then said "you are not currently logged in". Refreshed again a couple of times, same result. Then clicked on a thread link in IR, login screen came up, again saying "currently logged in as Kayak". Now both windows are on login screen. Refreshed both, still on login screen and still saying logged in. Pressed "Back" on IR screen and refreshed, now said "currently logged in as Kayak" on thread list, and works as normal. Same in TR. Never actually logged in again.

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 03 Feb 2003 18:38 - 146 of 220

Kayak,

Thank you for that, should hopefully give us a lot more to go on!

J.

Gausie - 03 Feb 2003 19:21 - 147 of 220

Kayak

You call that interesting????

Kayak - 03 Feb 2003 19:23 - 148 of 220

Gausie, why, do you have days more interesting than that??

Gausie - 03 Feb 2003 19:29 - 149 of 220

sure

Why, only last friday I had three windows open, one to Traders' Room and two to Investors' Room. Refreshed a thread in TR, login screen came up. Login screen however said "currently logged in as Gausie". Didn't do anything, moved to one of the IR windows which was on thread list and refreshed that. Top of thread list then said "you are not currently logged in". Refreshed again a couple of times, same result. Then clicked on a thread link in IR, login screen came up, again saying "currently logged in as Gausie". Now both windows are on login screen. Refreshed both, still on login screen and still saying logged in. Pressed "Back" on IR screen and refreshed, now said "currently logged in as Gausie" on thread list, and works as normal. Same in TR. Never actually logged in again.

It was wild.

Kayak - 03 Feb 2003 19:40 - 150 of 220

Oh OK, you're perfectly entitled to be blasabout it then.

Mr Ashley James - 03 Feb 2003 19:44 - 151 of 220

Yes, a Concrete Ban on any PDX Threads, automatic lock down of all existing PDX Threads, and a trial period to see how Gausie and Hoots handle same (;-o

mbbcat - 03 Feb 2003 20:14 - 152 of 220

Heatmaps

Just one list of BB threads to sort through!

alecm - 05 Feb 2003 09:46 - 153 of 220

Just a quickie, when i put a link on here, it is not 'live'... am i doing something wrong, or do you do it slightly different on this site..?? TIA

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 05 Feb 2003 10:51 - 154 of 220

alecm,

You need to actually code the HTML for the link at the moment:

ie:
<a href="http://www.yoururlgoeshere">http://www.yoururlgoeshere</a>

HTH

zzaxx99 - 05 Feb 2003 12:11 - 155 of 220

re: #94 - I note that the standards of accuracy have continued. In the report on BOC's figures, "down by" confused with "down to" - would have given a little frisson to any BOC holders who read that before they checked the price.

On a related tack, how do you search for, or scroll through past stories once they're not on the front page?

Mr Ashley James - 05 Feb 2003 12:37 - 156 of 220

A system that works and something worth reading on the bulletin boards?

cyclist - 05 Feb 2003 14:48 - 157 of 220

How about an easy way to see the benefits offered by your premium services !

alecm - 05 Feb 2003 18:37 - 158 of 220

AAhhh, thanks Tulletj

dodgydave - 03 Mar 2003 08:28 - 159 of 220

Technical request.

Could you please change to simple password authentication, like most other sites.
I want to be able to access pages using

http://username:password@pageURL

We're not talking official secrets here so I can't see why a secure login page is really necessary.

Kayak - 03 Mar 2003 08:31 - 160 of 220

MoneyAM, we've got dodgydave here wanting you to decrease security :-))

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 03 Mar 2003 08:42 - 161 of 220

dodgydave,

We have chosen this way of password authentication as it means that there are no circumstances where it is sent over the wire is clear text (the login pages are all on a secure https connection)

You will find more and more sites (comdirect, tradindex etc etc) do use, or will start to use this method.

Now that the login problems we were experiencing appear to be successfully resolved, and you can save your login details, why the need to move to basic authentication?

The only reason I can see for wanting basic authentication is to use automated scripts...?

Am I missing something? :)

J.

dodgydave - 04 Mar 2003 11:06 - 162 of 220

TullettJ

No, I'm not planning on using automated scripts ;} Just want to make first access to password protected pages like the Investors Room a bit quicker.

When you say "you can save your login details", are you referring to the checkbox on the login page? If so, this option doesn't work for me. Tried it with cookies fully enabled but I was always redirected to the login page on first visit. Checked with both IE6 and Netscape 7.1.

Anyhow, cookies are machine specific. I often use other peoples PCs and don't want my login details stored on their machine. For my own security reasons(!) I much prefer to have permanent cookies disabled.

I realise that brokers and spread betters use more secure login methods - financial transactions are involved. Can't see that accessing something like the Investors Room falls into the same category ;}

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 04 Mar 2003 14:02 - 163 of 220

dodgydave,

It is worth knowing that if you specify the url with http://:@website.com, some of the less intelligent proxy servers log this whole request, including the username/password.

We are not going to take the backwards step and go to basic authentication as there would be many other issues with doing this.

the 'save your login details' meerly populates the fields with the values, it is not meant to log you directly in.

J.

Kayak - 04 Mar 2003 14:12 - 164 of 220

The problem is not so much with proxy servers, but when you click away from the site e.g. by clicking on a link on the BB. The site you go to will log the URL which sent you there, which includes your username and password. This will appear in the site administrator's log and it also will stand out from all the others given its format.

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 04 Mar 2003 14:14 - 165 of 220

Kayak,

I was just coming to that :D

J.

Kayak - 04 Mar 2003 14:16 - 166 of 220

:-)

There's work for you on the bugs thread :-))

TullettJ (MoneyAM) - 04 Mar 2003 15:01 - 167 of 220

Yeah, found it myself last night, the people who need to know, know, and will be working on it.

J.

simchee - 04 Mar 2003 20:39 - 168 of 220

Im with market eye at the moment and although you are cheaper and one gets level 2 one doesnt get the streaming ticker for trades and price changes which one gets on market eye any chance of getting it here?
Awaiting reply.

mrsuperrod - 04 Mar 2003 20:53 - 169 of 220

give us learners a couple of weeks free L2 with stocks of our choice. its expensive for anyone who is not actively trading. show us ITS WORTH THE MONEY

chrispoote - 10 Mar 2003 17:46 - 170 of 220

Bit of a radical one here. There are certain rampers I do not wish to see on the bulletin board. I believe that the subliminal effect of even the titles of the threads seen day after day after day is enough to affect one's judgment, and I'd rather they went. No names, no pack drill: just use your eyes. And yes, I do filter their individual posts. Nevertheless, I've already all but had it with the investor's BB.
Xris

Catalina - 13 Mar 2003 09:35 - 171 of 220

Back to Indicators on Stockwatch, again - the arrows and dot. Prefer plain colour as used in Protfolio, to the shaded / 3D indicators.

Only a small detail.

Regards.

TBS - 13 Mar 2003 10:28 - 172 of 220

Charts:

Still got the pricing on the left hand axis - needs to be on the right!

TBS

IanT(MoneyAM) - 13 Mar 2003 10:33 - 173 of 220

TBS,

I will pass your comments onto Felix, who is our main developer when it comes to charts.

Ian

Jeroo - 13 Mar 2003 18:12 - 174 of 220

How about removing the AM banner from the level 2 screen - or stick it at the bottom of so I don't have to scroll down the page to view the rest of the level 2 data. Just a pop up window without the banner would be nice :) Let's face it, everyone knows it's streaming from the AM web site. Don't they?

Cheers.

stable - 13 Mar 2003 19:18 - 175 of 220

I have to scroll across to see the number of each thread unread.I presume this is cause by the hargreaves advert.
I find it bloody annoying,we had this problem across the other side for a short time and even they sorted that one out.
I would be a happy bunny when it is sorted here

IanT(MoneyAM) - 14 Mar 2003 10:41 - 176 of 220

Stable,

Comments Noted, I will make the developers aware.

Ian

midknight - 25 Mar 2003 11:13 - 177 of 220

I wanted to change the name of my stockwatch list but
apparently one can't do this!

IanT(MoneyAM) - 25 Mar 2003 11:34 - 178 of 220

midknight,

Unfortunately, you are correct - you cannot change the title of a watchlist at the moment. To get around this, you can cut and paste the epics into a new watchlist, with a new name - but I will pass your comments on to the developers to see if a change can be made.

Ian

Diogenes - 25 Mar 2003 19:26 - 179 of 220

Exchange traded funds (ETFs) are ordinary shares, but you can't get them on a stockwatch list. Can't see any good reason for this (no problem at ADVFN), but if you intend to persist with this you should make it clear somewhere that this is the case and the level of subscription at which they become accessible.

You are of course free to offer or not offer anything at any level of subscription, or none. I just think it should be quite clear what is in fact being offered.

superrod - 25 Mar 2003 20:41 - 180 of 220

sorry if this has been asked before but i dont have the time to read the lot.

how about a free L2 trial with maybe 3 shares of our own choice? costs a lot to susscribe and there must be many of us who are wondering if it would help but arent prepared to pay 50+ smackers a month unless we are sure its worth it.

superrod - 26 Mar 2003 10:46 - 181 of 220

wow......that was quick

Bullshare - 26 Mar 2003 10:58 - 182 of 220

Supereod. Thanks for highlighting this yesterday. With this trial you can enetr any EPIC code.:-)

Diogenes: We have the ishares ETF's. If you type in the following in your stock watch IEUR,IEUT,ISF,ITMT,IUSA

Kayak - 26 Mar 2003 11:07 - 183 of 220

Taiwan index looking very red today!

Diogenes - 26 Mar 2003 17:54 - 184 of 220

Bullshare: here's what I get if I try to get an ISF into my stockwatch:

"The following stocks were not recognised, or are not available live on your current subscription level: IEUR"

I was told yesterday by IanT that if I wanted ETF's in my stockwatch, I had to have at least an Active Plus subscription (I think it was). I just think that if this is the case you should make it clear in the description of the services provided at each subscription level. I think most people would assume, from the following description, that ETFs would be included in the free, premier, premier plus, and active services:

"The most comprehensive FREE service in the UK!

STOCKWATCH: FREE Real Time UK share prices that allow you to create current LIVE watchlists of your favourite stocks. (limited* access only - see our Active service below for full access)."

halifax - 06 Nov 2013 12:24 - 185 of 220

RNS sp on the move following dividend announcement.

skinny - 06 Nov 2013 12:29 - 186 of 220

Blimey!

Sequestor - 07 Nov 2013 08:20 - 187 of 220

Market Eye gets a mention, those were the days eh?

halifax - 02 Jan 2014 13:52 - 188 of 220

sp moving up ahead of results due on 14th January 2014

skinny - 02 Jan 2014 13:54 - 189 of 220

Erm?

halifax - 02 Jan 2014 14:01 - 190 of 220

skin IDEA is the EPIC for IDEAGEN a software company reporting shortly.

halifax - 02 Jan 2014 17:01 - 191 of 220

sp up nearly 6% today looking good for at least 35p.

halifax - 03 Jan 2014 13:38 - 192 of 220

sp up another 6%

halifax - 03 Jan 2014 16:01 - 193 of 220

SP up 13% today so far what a winner

Stan - 03 Jan 2014 16:05 - 194 of 220

Yes H, But this is not the IDEA thread you dopy git... At least I think that was what Skinny was hinting at -):

halifax - 03 Jan 2014 16:10 - 195 of 220

Stanley tell me where the IDEAGEN thread is?

skinny - 03 Jan 2014 16:13 - 196 of 220

Nowhere until you start one!

halifax - 03 Jan 2014 16:16 - 197 of 220

this is it everbody seems to have run out of ideas otherwise, last post 2003!

Stan - 03 Jan 2014 16:19 - 198 of 220

That's no excuse, just start one if you want one like everybody else.

halifax - 03 Jan 2014 16:20 - 199 of 220

Stanley this is now the one EPIC IDEA!

skinny - 03 Jan 2014 16:21 - 200 of 220

Make sure you put a chart etc in the header! :-)

Stan - 03 Jan 2014 16:21 - 201 of 220

No it isn't, how many more times, Don't be so lazy H.

halifax - 03 Jan 2014 16:29 - 202 of 220

Stanley DIY!

Stan - 03 Jan 2014 16:32 - 203 of 220

You want one not me, don't be so damn lazy just start one.

goldfinger - 03 Jan 2014 16:46 - 204 of 220

Improvements, can we please remove the poster known as Cynic.

Stan - 03 Jan 2014 16:48 - 205 of 220

Here here, I'll vote for that -):

dreamcatcher - 03 Jan 2014 16:48 - 206 of 220

And halifax

goldfinger - 03 Jan 2014 16:50 - 207 of 220

ha ha ha he he he.

dreamcatcher - 03 Jan 2014 16:50 - 208 of 220

I'm serious. :-))

goldfinger - 03 Jan 2014 16:56 - 209 of 220

So am I. LOL.

halifax - 03 Jan 2014 17:14 - 210 of 220

will the last blogger pse switch off the computer!

Stan - 03 Jan 2014 17:42 - 211 of 220

Come on where's your new thread H?

halifax - 03 Jan 2014 17:52 - 212 of 220

Stanley is this another fine mess you are trying to get us in?

Stan - 03 Jan 2014 17:56 - 213 of 220

Probably -):

ExecLine - 03 Jan 2014 19:00 - 214 of 220

In one way, this Forum is easy to read and also has some nice little quirky tit-bits you can use as well.

These days, to keep up, with modern technology, the web site does have a lot to do and needs to cater for fitting Wide Screen Monitors and also Mobile Phones and Tablets.

I guess the latter can be catered for with pertinent Apps and the former with the 'View Wide'/'View Normal' tabs at the top of the page.

Generally speaking it serves its purpose well.

If you look at something like the 'TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD', I do think this typifies how 'stale' MoneAM has become. There are about 6-10 regular posters having a political ding dong with each other and for the average user, it would be so very hard to even contribute to the thread as he/she would be readily seen not to 'fit in' just because it is so 'cliquey'.

Now for a forum web site this is bad!

You want everyone to fit in easily and feel confident to be able to make comments and ask questions.

I think if I ran this site as a business, I would try to make it a much more personable and personalisable place for its users and probably too, move over to one of the more modern Forum software formats, such as the Xenforo platform, thereby giving the place a 'makeover' and some extra forum tools. I would try to capitalise in the doing of this and use the PR available from such a makeover/renewal as a means of attracting lots of new members.

I would scrap the Traders Room and combine it with the Investors Room. However, I would introduce several more Forum Sections, perhaps by combining Shares Magazine into the site with an added subscription.

And then there are the foreign markets too.

Hey! Whoa! Hey Mike! Just take over ADVFN! :)

But it just might be time for a makeover, don't you think? Or have you still got the site for sale?

deltazero - 03 Jan 2014 20:54 - 215 of 220

I like the idea of merging the traders & investors room into one???

goldfinger - 03 Jan 2014 21:13 - 216 of 220

"If you look at something like the 'TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD', I do think this typifies how 'stale' MoneAM has become. There are about 6-10 regular posters having a political ding dong with each other and for the average user, it would be so very hard to even contribute to the thread as he/she would be readily seen not to 'fit in' just because it is so 'cliquey'. "..........ends

absolutely untrue.

Everyone is welcome to post on that thread but two weeks ago we had a double handle poster who was out to cause trouble. Hes been dispatched now after some detective work which proved he was a spoiler from advfn.

In fact we have had over the last few months had genuine posters coming from advfn because they didnt like that boards use of links for non subscribers who have fitted in well on the thread.

I do admit it is a thread with more than the usual elderly experienced business man posting but that doesnt mean you will be just dismissed off hand.

If you want to really see an unfreindly board i suggest you visit the TMF pauly pilots pub and see how you are treated their if you have a contrarian view.

Chris Carson - 03 Jan 2014 21:51 - 217 of 220

ABSOLUTELY TRUE GF!!!!!!!

dreamcatcher - 03 Jan 2014 21:55 - 218 of 220

Put the ftse competition up to £1000. :-))

ExecLine - 03 Jan 2014 23:41 - 219 of 220

GF

Whoa! :-)

Well anyone is of course, quite free to post on any thread on here.

But I didn't say a new poster on that thread would be unwelcome. I tried to say, that with so much particular political banter from the resident hard core of posters who regularly amuse themselves on there, it is hard for a newbie to launch him/herself into the middle of it.

I'm an old fart now. As a parallel, I don't think I would quite fit in, if I were to walk into one of the town centre pubs on a Friday night - sorta kinda. Now I can hold my own, it's just that I wouldn't go there because I feel I wouldn't really fit in. It's not because it's unfriendly. It's for the same sort of reason that I don't go with my missus to her 'Flower Club' night. I don't think I would feel totally comfortable surrounded by 97% women.

And I do appreciate, that the 'Talk to yourself thread' is the busiest thread on here by about 10 miles.

But IMHO, the Forum side of the site has become a bit stale. It's not unfriendly. It's been like it is for the last, well, at least more than a decade.

IMHO also, the data side of things is quite excellent, by the way. I do like the Charting particularly.

Does the site need a makeover? Would it add vibrancy?

I think it kinda does and I think it would.

robstuff - 03 Apr 2014 09:19 - 220 of 220

I like it as it is but then I hate change. The home page indices do not have correct values eg for Dow

Please suggest any Improvements you would like to see on AM (IDEA)