Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Can I smell burned gammon?

:o)

Should have just quit the EU 2 years ago , six months after the referendum.

Macron and Spain doing a great job of drumming up support for the eu get stuffed deal.

CNG - i suspect you have more expertise than the rest of us put together, but if you're a long term holder, then it must surely be to just sit tight; if a trader, then if already holding, sell into the rally especially if you can see a respectable profit

Bulls win, cyners. Bears win. But pigs always get stuffed.

Gammon
A term used to describe a particular type of Brexit-voting, europhobic, middle-aged white male, whose meat-faced complexion suggests they are perilously close to a stroke.

Cerise.

You are not saying Manuel is middle-aged, are you?

That would be difficult to believe.

cynic is well past middle age, and fred is positively geriatric with the usual complications of dementia :-)

The result of the so-called deal not getting past parliament might result in the status quo as far as remaining in the EU for a few more years.....so many political shenanigans going on at the moment.....might end up with secret bribes to mp's for votes....nothing surprises me now....as politics is pretty much stinky-poos....

Manuel,

Recognition of the facts doesn't slow down the process.

-===

Is there a term for a "barrow girl"?

If so it will be interesting to watch Theresa selling her goods off one.

did anyone else read the long article in ST re seumas milne?
very interesting ....... he seems a very nasty piece of work making mandelson look to have wings and a halo

Its not a case of Theresa selling her pile of Phoo - it a case of what will she corruptly offer to bribe her way into retaining power and getting her BEST DEAL done.

You just have to look back at the way she used a billion to keep the DUP on board when she misjudged her appeal.

Manuel,

Is it time for Theresa and her present crew to be selling the Big Issue rather than Britain?

oh hahaha! ....... you silly boy

do you have any views on this chap milne?
certainly has an excellent public school and oxford background :-)

He must be good.

But I have not heard of him.

But I would think Corbyn would be quite happy for May and the Cons to continue on their errand to ruing Britain.

The effects of their failing policies will become more obvious at the time of a general election and attached to the cons artists who would be replaced by a Labour or Coalition government of Labour/LibDem/SNP.

The tories will be held responsible for the effects and failures of austerity and Brexit, especially when the UK has to cow down to the EU legislation and bear the expense of the fail negotiation.

The tories may suffer "wipeout", and if so, the new government would have power and authority to make sweeping changes in the social and economic structures of the British society.

Interesting to observe.

Edited.

He was a journalist for the Guardian for 33 years, you're an avid Guardian reader but you have not heard of him, pull the other one.

Manuel,

I know Pooh bear is probably still on your reading list but A. A. Milne is not on my mine.

SEUMAS MILNE
very long article about him in yesterday's sunday times
well worth a read

You might be right about the tories being wiped out at the next election, if they vote this deal through or fail to deliver a clean break from the EU having changed leaders.

How can anyone now take her Best Deal seriously when she said No Customs Union, No Deal is better than a bad deal, and taking back Power - might as well let the German and French install themselves at No10 as she is nothing more than a puppet.

Puppet now but maybe EU president in future?

10343 - you may be right, or of course it may be just wishful thinking by some ......

as i have posted several times, by this stage of a parliament, and especially this one, the opposition should be showing a very significant lead in the polls (for whatever they are worth ..... at time of writing, it is debatable whether labour have a lead at all