goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
This_is_me
- 14 Dec 2010 15:45
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Is it true that Hilary has a degree in skiing, a PhD in swimming and worked her way through the University of Bognor by pole dancing?!!!
greekman
- 14 Dec 2010 17:30
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This is me,
I am reporting you to the Sexist Police regarding your sexist comments re Hilary (although obviously Hilary can be a mans name) I am also reporting you to the Racism Police for your comment re Pole dancing. Why single out the Poles, when any nationality can dance.
You will be commenting on Lap (Norwegian, Swedish and Finish) Dancing next.
Just how low can you get.
Will wait for the obvious reply.
regards Greek (on Sundays you can call me Susan).
Stan
- 14 Dec 2010 18:46
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The War You Don't See.
Episode 1
John Pilger investigates the media's role in war, tracing the history of 'embedded' and independent reporting from the carnage of the First World War through to the destruction of Hiroshima, the invasion of Vietnam and the current wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. As the nature of war has changed, who is the real enemy today? Is it the people at home watching TV? And is the journalist's job to normalise the unthinkable? The film contains shocking, never before seen footage from Iraq and Afghanistan and revealing interviews with former BBC reporter Rageh Omaar, former CBS anchor Dan Rather and Julian Assange, founder of Wikileaks. SUB
Today on ITV1 WEST from 10:35pm to 12:25am
Might encourage some people to think.
This_is_me
- 15 Dec 2010 08:22
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Thank-you Greek - anyone who has never been reported to the Sexist Police isn't a real man!
Hilary is definately all female.
Fred1new
- 15 Dec 2010 09:39
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Stan,
Thank you for pointing to John Pilger "documentary".
Very interesting exposure of the abuses of power.
I am glad that there are still individuals, or journalists, like him and Julian Assange, who have courage enough to open the cans of worms and give insights into "said" democracies.
mnamreh
- 15 Dec 2010 09:53
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mnamreh
- 15 Dec 2010 10:59
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Fred1new
- 15 Dec 2010 11:34
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N,
I will let you off.
This time. 8-)
greekman
- 15 Dec 2010 11:41
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Whilst I agree with most whistle blowers as they can do good by exposing corruption and the like, I do not agree in any way with Wikileaks releasing all the leaks they have done.
We all talk behind peoples backs, diplomats especially. If diplomats spoke their true feelings, we would be at war within weeks.
How many of us would like to stand in the street, and tell everyone willing to listen what we think of certain issues. If I did so re Muslims and terrorism whom I feel we deal with far too softly, I would either start a riot, be locked up or both. But I do make these views clear when I am speaking to friends, or colleagues.
Most countries tow the diplomatic line when speaking in public about other countries or their leaders, or directly to such leaders. That is how the world goes round.
I saw a very strange short film many years ago that has always stuck in my mind, although for the life of me I can only remember the theme, and nothing else.
This was a film were everyone for reasons I forget, had to tell the truth to everyone they met, including what they were thinking, (it could have been that everyone could read other minds).
Within a very short time, no one had any friends. Husbands had left wives/wives had left husbands, relationships in general fell apart, workers were being sacked because they told their bosses what they really thought and so on.
If we are all honest, how many of us think things many times per day, about people we meet, live with and work for that if we spoke those thoughts out loud would be in trouble. I would not advise telling your wife/husband the 100% truth of what you really think for even 24 hours, unless you are either very brave, foolish or both. Think about it!
In my opinion Wikileaks are being very irresponsible, and putting lives at risk.
I am aware of quite a few things that governments do and do not wish the public to know about, and I am sure there are far many more I don't know about.
Many dodgy things are done to protect us, the public (my view is not enough) that would have to be curtailed as the 'do gooding, liberal brigade' would not stand for.
So whilst some things obviously need to be outed, many things are better not being told.
Freedom of speech v privacy is and will always be a difficult area.
In the real world, Truth is good, total truth is very dangerous indeed.
mnamreh
- 15 Dec 2010 11:42
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Fred1new
- 15 Dec 2010 15:00
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A long time ago.
My father told me, that I was entitled to my own opinion.
He added that, if I gave an opinion, I should be prepared to defend it.
He also added that, it was only a fool who never changed his opinion.
He also told me, that if I sign an letter or form, the signature was representative of me and to accept the responsibility of not signing anything lightly.
If you write anything on a subject, which may effect the public in general, I think public are entitled to know.
As far as Wikileaks and Pllger, is concerned, it is interesting to see how many major decisions of political leaders were based on flimsy information, whim or ideology.
Often leading to colossal loss of the lives of others.
Exposure, may be of benefit to the majority of society, but I can see why the "elite" may be obstructive and prefer to remain and act unobserved.
aldwickk
- 15 Dec 2010 17:24
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of not to signing
if I sign an letter or form,
What school did Fred go to ?
hilary
- 15 Dec 2010 17:27
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Approved?
Stan
- 15 Dec 2010 17:36
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And when are you two going to start?
Fred1new
- 15 Dec 2010 17:54
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H. and Alds,
It was also suggested to me, to look at the content of a parcel and not the wrappings.
I wonder what my valuation of either of you would be.
But thank you for pointing out my errors.
Fred1new
- 15 Dec 2010 18:28
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I have concluded that my valuations would be, glossy on the outsides and rubbish on the insides.
Stan
- 15 Dec 2010 21:31
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Followed by MM exuding.
aldwickk
- 16 Dec 2010 00:17
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Micro
Did you get my email i resent ?