Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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Great to see a sentencing speech that is not full of the UK bull of a difficult upbringing, and no mention of a pre sentencing report just in case this poor misunderstood person was lead astray by others and that it was not really his fault.

As he was dragged from the courtroom, Richard Reid shouted "I'm at war with your country not for personal reasons but because you have killed so many innocents, so many children...."

I'm no fan of the tea-towel heads and two wrongs certainly don't make a right, but doesn't he have a point?

No.

They intentionally target the none combatants were as we don't.
I hate the term collateral damage, but in any war that is unavoidable.
If they want deaths of their innocent children to stop then they have the answer. Stop terrorising the world.
Its as simple as that.
Remember they (terrorists) preach death to all none believers.

There was no terrorist threat from Iraq to the UK yet we went to war because of a ultra right wing president with a lower IQ then any other president in history for what regime change if so why pick Iraq , to get the oil or to be one up on his daddy.

How many innocent civilians have been murdered by US troop's ?

I suppose it might be worth pointing out that good 'ole Saddam was responsible for two major conflicts in the Middle East - Iran-Iraq war (8 years, poison gas, chemicals etc), gassing of Kurds and Marsh Arabs and the invasion of Kuwait (Gulf 1).

The Afghan Taliban hosted their mates, Al-Quaeda, who killed 3,500 people in the 9/11 attacks. This was considered an attack against a NATO country and caused Clause 5 (collective defence) to be invoked for the first time as permitted under the UN Charter.

There is little indication that a withdrawal from Afghanistan would lessen terrorist attacks and every indication that they would increase.

As for Iraq (Gulf 2), it has to be said that the intelligence was faulty. But as Saddam's record for 30 years or so was littered with poison gas and chemical attacks on innocent civilians as well as troops (remember the concern that he would use gas during Gulf 1?), it was perhaps understandable that 'dodgy dossiers' were so easily believed.

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Iraq was also a bulwark against Al-Quaeda

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"The very President of the United States through his officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice."




Now boys, you just get on with the water boarding,


I personally would like to see Bush, Cheney. Blair before a Hague tribunal.


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There are quite a list of other leaders who should be there too.

M - I wasn't going back that far , but how many had heard of them before 9/11. When Saddam was in power how many Iraq based terrorist bombed the UK and America ?

" supplying weapons from an arms industry keeps bread in the bellies of our children and dividends in our shareholders pockets "

I don't think our children will stave not while their parents can afford to buy them all the latest Net book's , mobile's and PlayStation etc:

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What absolutely boring crap. Can you lot not lighten up and vary your topic?

You lot have spent the last one or two years rabbiting on about this shite and you really are not going to change the world or alter the positions of its politicians and world leaders, are you?

FFS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS. It's coming up for Christmas, in case you didn't know it.

Anyone got a recipe for Turkey? Or even a good Trifle?

Turkey recipes, Doc? I bet you've boned a few birds in your time.

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A recipe for Turkey? Would that be in relation to its possible entry to the EU?

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I thought some of your long list of jokes were crap as well

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Terrorists, including the IRA, take the view that they can shoot, bomb, maim and kill without warning or mercy but that if they are caught in the act it is wrong to shoot them even with warning and if arrested they think they should be allowed off a free house and other benefits and allowed to try again.

The scum should be shot on sight if seen with a weapon and if caught planning something locked up and then, if not born in the UK deported.

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TIM,

Glad you have entered the Mind set and Time set of the IRA and terrorists.

In spite of the actions of some, and even though sometimes it is difficult for some to accept, I think the world is "improving" (Health, education and other expectations), for the majority of society and the world in general.

But we still have a hell of a long way to go and it is "crazy" when governments seem to throwing spikes in the wheels to stop that progress.