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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MightyMicro - 29 Dec 2010 22:30 - 10411 of 81564

Exec: Chip and PIN problem is indeed well known, although arguably difficult for Mr Average to exploit.

In particular, the exploit works with merchant terminals, not with Bank ATMs, and would be of use to the organised criminal using stolen cards. Essentially, PIN verification can be falsified when the verification is performed locally to the terminal.

Here's the definitive paper.

What you may enjoy much more, however, is Ross Anderson's magisterial rebuke to the Banks.

Ross Anderson socks it to the Banks.


The whole thing is something of a mess, and I don't doubt further exploits will be discovered in the fullness of time.

aldwickk - 30 Dec 2010 09:05 - 10412 of 81564

Someone would find it difficult to buy good's online with my card because they would need my card password to make the payment.

Fred1new - 30 Dec 2010 10:35 - 10413 of 81564

I thought that, if you were under sixteen, you weren't permitted a debit or credit card.

aldwickk - 30 Dec 2010 10:46 - 10414 of 81564

Your right

Haystack - 30 Dec 2010 13:12 - 10415 of 81564

My 14 year old son has a debit card and a bank account from Natwest. He buys things online.

aldwickk - 30 Dec 2010 14:22 - 10416 of 81564

We were wrong

Haystack - 30 Dec 2010 14:35 - 10417 of 81564

http://www.natwest.com/personal/current-accounts/g1/young-people.ashx

Natwest's details of 11 - 18 accounts including debit cards.

ExecLine - 31 Dec 2010 10:17 - 10418 of 81564

Oh my God! Oh my God! Hope this doesn't come here! Never mind reading (and filing) her e-mails, I even do some of my wife's online banking!

From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/....

Husband facing five years in jail after hacking wife's email

A husband who suspected his wife was having an affair faces up to five years in jail after reading her emails without her permission.

Prosecutor Jessica Cooper dismissed Walker's claims that he had used his wife's password to log on to the computer
7:09PM GMT 27 Dec 2010
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Leon Walker has been charged under anti-hacking laws aimed at preventing identity theft in the US. The 33-year-old had suspected his wife Clara, who had been married twice before was having an affair with her former husband.

He is alleged to have used his computer skills to gain access to her Gmail email account on the shared home computer. Mr Walker discovered a series of emails which confirmed his suspicions that his wife was cheating on him.

With nearly half US divorce cases involving some form of privacy invasion such as the reading of text messages or social networking web pages, the case could have significant legal repercussions.

As her second husband had previously been arrested for beating her in front of her son, Walker handed the emails over to the boy's father. The concerned father, Clara's first husband, sought sole custody of the boy and was forced into revealing Walker had leaked him the emails. When his wife realised her emails had been read she went to the authorities and pressed charges. She later split up from Walker and the couple were divorced earlier this month, when he was arrested for hacking.

Prosecutors in Oakland County, Michigan, charged Walker under the state's anti-hacking laws which were aimed at stopping identity theft and used to prosecute people who hack into Government computers.

Prosecutor Jessica Cooper dismissed Walker's claims that he had used his wife's password to log on to the computer. She said Walker was nothing but a "hacker" who used his skills as a computer technician to gain access to his wife's email account.

"It was password protected, he had wonderful skills, and was highly trained. Then he downloaded them and used them in a very contentious way," she said.

Walker said he had become suspicious of his wife after she failed to return home one night. He claimed he and his wife shared a laptop which he had bought after their marriage and maintained she often left the password to her email account lying around the house they shared in Rochester Hills.

Walker said he was worried as his wife was taking their one year old daughter to stay with her violent ex husband.

"I started putting more thought into it, and thought she was very likely taking our daughter over to the guy's house," Walker said. "So I said to myself, I bet you I can confirm that by reading her email. She kept very simple passwords and she left them in notes and books throughout the house." He added: "I was doing what I had to do. We're talking about putting a child in danger."

Walker, who works as an IT technician for Oakland County, denied that he had hacked into the account. He is due to go on trial in February and could face a maximum of five years in jail if convicted.

ExecLine - 31 Dec 2010 15:04 - 10419 of 81564

I have to admit to being somewhat fascinated by what pops up daily in connection with the murder of Joanna Yeates and giving 'background information' concerning Jo's 'blue-rinsed' Landlord chappie, Chris Jefferies.

My wife and I are actually discussing this case several times a day. Is it the same in your house?

Here's a little bit more on the case, but not necessarily about Jefferies. This was in today's The Scotsman:

It was reported today that police investigating Jo Yeates' death are to look at links to an unsolved murder committed near her home in 1974. Glennis Carruthers, 20, was found strangled outside Bristol Zoo. At the time police interviewed 16,000 people but no one was charged.

By the way, where's Ruth when you need her? ;-)

aldwickk - 31 Dec 2010 16:49 - 10420 of 81564

I was convinced it was her boyfriend that killed her before i knew about her landlord living upstairs , he would have had a spare key to her flat which would explain why her key's were left in the flat but what happen to the pizza that she bought ?

Any DNA will soon bring the case to a close.

Haystack - 31 Dec 2010 17:10 - 10421 of 81564

The police only went door to door looking for the pizza box and other evidence the day after the recycling men came on Tuesday. Aren't our police wonderful.

Chris Carson - 31 Dec 2010 17:44 - 10422 of 81564

Err Hello, extension would indicate not enough evidence to charge said landlord with murder, before condemnation and completion of enquiries innocent until proved guilty should prevail. Even if he does look like a dodgy bastard!

aldwickk - 31 Dec 2010 19:53 - 10423 of 81564

No one is saying his guilty. Extension would indicate the police are waiting for forensic evidence. Did you read today's paper's ? sound's like a right pervert.

Haystack - 31 Dec 2010 20:10 - 10424 of 81564

I think they have recourse to two more extensions of up to 36 hours each requiring a visit to a magistrate. The maximum once the clock starts ticking is 96 hours unless terrorist offence.

Fred1new - 31 Dec 2010 20:24 - 10425 of 81564

"Takes one to know one" comes to mind!

But I would hang him now. Why waste public money!

Chris Carson - 31 Dec 2010 20:44 - 10426 of 81564

aldwick - Did you read todays paper ?

What paper was that then The Sun? The Star? What kin planet are you on!

aldwickk - 31 Dec 2010 22:58 - 10427 of 81564

Not the one your on

ExecLine - 01 Jan 2011 00:18 - 10429 of 81564

Happy '1.1.11' everybody.

:-)

Haystack - 01 Jan 2011 01:35 - 10430 of 81564

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-granted-extension-to-question-yeates-landlord-2173358.html

Saturday's Independent

"It emerged yesterday that detectives had been watching the retired teacher for several days prior to his arrest."
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