Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

What a farce - http://www.sportsgrid.com/media/ryan-giggs-sunday-herald-imogen-thomas/

Skinny,

I think you are others are jumping to conclusions.
The picture actually looks like a girl I went out with many years ago.
Mind you it was one of those nights, you know when after a few jars every female looks gorgeous.
So it looks like my 'super injunction' has been breached.

Greek.

Damn!! thats er indoors, whats she been up to???

Greek - just for you!

Thanks Skinny,

You have obviously also, been there, done that, got the 't' shirt etc.

Also loved the banded 'Levi' add.
Shame the thought Police got their way.

Greek.

New York's outdoor smoking ban: Will the world follow?

New York is introducing an outdoor smoking ban. But could the UK and other countries could follow suit, asks Tom de Castella.

It is a city heralded for attracting incomers from around the world, but New York has just become less hospitable to one group - smokers.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
What a c--p day stock wise. I feel better now

About bloody time - Ryan Giggs named by MP as injunction footballer

A married footballer named on Twitter as having an injunction over an alleged affair with a reality TV star has been named in Parliament by Lib Dem MP John Hemming as Ryan Giggs.

The beast gets stuck on a ramp.

So George Davis was innocent.

George Davis wins appeal against robbery conviction.

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George Davis was jailed for 20 years for armed robbery and wounding, after a raid in April 1974 at the then London Electricity Board, in Essex.

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Lets hope it doesn't spread!

The following article got me tick, tick, whirr, whirring:

http://www.thesun.co.uk: Steven-Howard says Ryan Giggs will have just one thing on his mind on Saturday night

Quote: "....footballers live in a bubble, protected from the real world by their clubs, team-mates and a host of lawyers,agents, minders and friends. That is how Giggs, barely changing stride, has been able to get on with his life."

Anyone else out there beginning to wonder if the primary legal advisers to Ryan Giggs are actually Manchester United's legal team and Sir Alex Ferguson and not a lawyer privately and separately appointed by Giggs outside of the club?

Sooner this Giggs saga is over the better!

Is there anyone else out there who is not bothered how he behaves off the pitch as long as it is not criminal or seriously morally wrong.
He had an affair! So what!
It is thought that over half of all married couples have affairs, during their marriage.

His big mistake was the injunction. Surely those close to him knew about the affair, so if he had allowed the media to publish without this circus, he could have made the usual statement along the lines of 'this is a private matter and I will not discus this further'. Within a few days, the furore would have died down leaving nothing for the press to publish and nothing for people to talk about.
Personally, I find the subject very boring.

Note........Not having a go at anyone on here, as I am now one of those joining in on the discussion, although my post is more of a statement, as I have no desire to discus said subject.

Having sexual intercourse outside marriage is seriously morally wrong. Unfortunately his behaviour is not much different from a large number of those writing about it or many members of the public at large.

This is me,

I agree that unfortunately the attitude toward such behavior is not what it used to be.
Most people who are famous, wealthy or both, have far more temptations put in their way than us ordinary folk.
I am not trying to excuse their behavior, but I must admit to seeing many pictures of beautiful women (it's never the ugly ones) who have been named in extra marital affairs, and being honest enough to admit to myself, that in the past I would have found it 'very difficult' to say no should the opportunity be presented to me on a plate (yes strange place to have sex).
I remember a few years ago when an absolutely 100% gorgeous 20 year old female teacher was found guilty of having sex with a 15 year old schoolboy. I remember thinking, lucky devil, it never happened to me.

I appreciate that if it had been a male teacher and a female pupil I would have thought differently, and that makes me a hypocrite. Something I think most men are when regarding sex.

I am very happily married, but as a hot blooded male, I am being perfectly honest.

Greek

You say, 'His big mistake was the injunction'

I do think all of revelations that have now come out have marred Gigg's career.

The good stuff:

Giggs as a professional footballer, has been at the top of his game longer than anyone. An incredible 20 seasons in which he has won 12 titles, four FA Cups, three League Cups and two Champions League trophies.
At the same time, he has broken every appearance record at Old Trafford - 613 in the league and 875 overall.
He is also the only player to have scored in every Premier League season.
And he has never been sent off in a United shirt.

The bad stuff:

All the revelations about his affair within Imogen Thomas convey a very negative picture about Giggs as a husband and a father. And there are also other women now being mentioned once again, where all of the information on that with them had gone quiet.

What I am actually trying to say is this:

It is Manchester United's lawyers that have messed up by giving Giggs what has turned out to be very bad advice. Their client, Giggs, accepted the advice, instructed them to 'go ahead then and take out the super injunction'.

He is a footballer, not a lawyer. He listens to the advice of the lawyers, makes a footballer's decision and then does what they advise. Wrong!! He wasn't qualified to know what was best to do - take the advice or leave it.

These lawyers are most probably not Gigg's lawyers. They highly likely to be Manchester United Football Club's lawyers.

If Giggs can be said to have got it wrong - then so can the club be said to have got it wrong too.

Hence why Sir Alex Ferguson is so angry with the situation. He has to be both angry and frustrated by Giggs but surely more angry with the advice given to Giggs by the MUFC's lawyers.

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I do think you have to be admiring of Ferguson in all of this. He can and does keep the team together as such a very powerful unit and no matter what is thrown at it!

But stand by for the club firing their team of legal advisers for sure!

When I said it was Giggs mistake, I do agree it was down to advice given, but the fact is he made the final decision.
It would probably have been better to say the advice given was wrong, as i am sure he was under great pressure from others.
As to his football career. I don't think it will be blighted in the long term, as this will fizzle out quickly.
I have aways admired, Giggsy as a great ambassador for United and football in general. These revaluations make no difference to how I will view him, and I am sure that goes for most football fans.
I appreciate it has not been good for his marriage and fatherhood, but I look at things like that philosophically.
My old career is still known for having more marriage breakdowns than any other, most being down to extra marital relationships.
Most such relationships are of no interest whatsoever to others.
What Giggs and other famous people do regarding sex outside marriage is also of no interest to me.

As to Ferguson. Great manager that he is, I just can't stand the man.

anybody have Imogens phone number??

No.. but someone here might know: +44 (0) 161 868 8000 hospitality@manutd.co.uk

Beebusy,

If your interested, there is an Imogen who has her number on a card in our local phone box.