Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Greek,

How many times do you call wolf!

" If you want to see some real abusive and attacking stuff, that needs something doing about it, just take a peep at the postings of In The Land of the B made to Haystacks on the Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA) thread. "

And who started that thread ?

Fred
I don't think you understand the problem. Your post about Cameron is a good example. Because of your political leanings and your wish to say anything damaging to the present government you suggested that Cameron is a lighweight as regards education even suggesting that he didn't deserve his place at Oxford or his First Class degree in PPE. This is a very silly attitude. Harold Wilson also obtained a First at Oxford in PPE. Are you suggesting that he is more worthy than Cameron because Cameron has family money? You even bought up the prospect of buying his degree.

It is constant posts like that that bring you involvement in these threads into disrepute,

I don't think you can ban someone like Fred for being a pain in the arse wind up merchant

Stan ,Fred here do you think am a pain in the arse ? you want me to buy what at the chemist

I don't think Fred should be banned either. Maybe Fred should consider what he posts from time to time. It is the constant ranting that gets so wearing.

Actually I also don't think he should be banned. Squelched by everyone maybe but not banned. Bit surprised if really Hilary left just because of Fred rather than just squelching him. Something there doesn't add up.

Several weeks ago I started writing a post about MAM, but never posted it. I've added to it in the light of what's happened this week, but this is the gist of it:

Whats the future for MoneyAM?

Ive heard various people comment over the last year or two that they thought MoneyAM was dying, the threads werent active enough, and the Traders thread was simply a collection of people saying Morning to each other. Ive tried to blot this out and believed they were wrong, but Im starting to come to the same conclusion. Why?

First of all, where is the innovation? The site is essentially much the same as it was when it was first started. I know new associated sites have been developed, including the charting facility, Financialappointments.com and now Stockmarketwire.com (although this sounds vaguely familiar - is it a takeover and revamp?). But all these sites seem to be is essentially a rehash of the same information. There are other sites such as iii which have more sophisticated tools, all free.

There was a big drop in the ARM share price a few weeks ago, and the MoneyAM comment was just that they had dropped. On Twitter I found out that it was because Intel were announcing they could make a chip with the processors arranged in 3D, but not a mention of this on MoneyAM.

I have much more up to date information on Twitter, both from the s/bet companies and from other investors / traders. This is a serious threat to the viability of MAM imho.

I now use my smartphone almost as much as my PC, and enjoy websites that are designed to cope with mobile devices. All that we have from MAM is an app for the iPhone, and it costs 24 a month including the VAT - almost as much as an iPhone contract. Theres no support for iPads, Windows mobile and Android devices. It may be that the development costs are too great, but I find opening MAM in a normal browser on my phone is an unbelievable pain.

The thing about Fred and his constant wind ups is a real pain - he makes stupid posts and finds them amusing, but they are just designed to wind everyone up. Much as I would love him to leave, I dont think he should be banned either.

I enjoy the virtual company that MAM brings me, and have made several friends, some of whom I have met and others not, and have learnt a lot from them, but I really do feel that MAM is dying, and needs a real rethink to survive.

I doubt that MAM is dying. The BB is not only part of their business and as a business my guess is that it is doing fine. Running a BB is a nice facilty but I doubt that it is central in any way to MAM's business model. I do agree that the BB could be spruced up a bit.

The problem is that if you have a wildly successful BB than it will almost certainly degenerate into another ADVFN, which is a bear pit. With such a beast you either have to have a 'hands off' approach as ADVFN do or a large amount of moderation which is not practical.

The size and activity of the present BB is probably manageable. I doubt that MAM have any ambitions for a bigger BB as it brings its own problems. A slightly more vibrant BB would be nice. Perhaps we could have a thread on that subject.

Interesting, more tolerance shown than perhaps I expected.

Moneyam is quiet, but I doubt it due to my postings, and reviewing many threads one will find abuse is being freely thrown around. I doubt that many, who seem to think it reasonable to be abusive on a bulletin board thread, would have the temerity to do the same in more public actual place.

I think the site is quieter, due to the difficult market, the depressed market and seemingly directionless market. (Perhaps, why some are so touchy.)

Many are standing on the bye lines feeling it is too dangerous to be involved, although there may be some who can trade positively in such choppy waters.

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Aids,

If I had been a purchaser in a chemist before you were born, I would have bought your father a condom.

Missed opportunity!

That was a silly statement full of if's. IF you new my father , IF you were a purchaser in a chemist , IF you new me before i was born ......

Maybe it was Fred's attempt at being witty , such as calling me Aid's , as i said before your wit is as sharp as a rubber ball.

ps Try Aldick , you can have that one on me.

Why give up your enjoyment of a chat on this board. Just ignore the person that gets on your nerves. At the end of the day you don't have to read what they have written.
Suppose I am puzzled.

At least while we are bashing Fred we are leaving Cameron and his goons alone

OK. Said I would not post till etc etc, but as I obviously looked in to see the response to my previous post I must say this.
I agree F*** should not be banned, as he has not as far as I can see broken any rules. The only reason I said I will not post until etc etc is that I just can't be bothered to wade through all the F*** reply posts, surely that is easy to understand. I squelched him long ago, but I don't wish to squelch all those who reply to him, as many of those often post none F*** reply post on many other subjects.
So yes, will still look in at least now and then to see if the thread improves, but that is all.

Good for you

Greek,
Likewise.

Fred is just a wind up merchant,best ignored, I wouldn't want to see him banned.

I have tried to take greekman's advice but Fred is such a easy target to take the piss out of , but it was funny a few days ago when nobody replied to his post and he spent most of the day posting more and more trying to get a response from someone.

I am going to try to take greekmans advice again.

I was just going to start the 'Don't Talk to Fred' Thread but didn't want to discriminate against less irritating Freds.

Isaacs - 15 Jun 2011 12:41 - 11127 of 11139
Actually I also don't think he should be banned. Squelched by everyone maybe but not banned. Bit surprised if really Hilary left just because of Fred rather than just squelching him. Something there doesn't add up.

No, strictly speaking, you're right and I decided not to actively post anymore because everybody else seemed to have already been driven away and no longer bothered to post themselves. Why doesn't Ruthie post anymore? Or the 50 something strong North West crowd who used to follow her around and made a contribution as part of the community? Where does Chocopops post nowadays (actually, I know the answer to that one)? Or Kayak, Martini, Foale, to name but a few of the countless others for that matter? Even Mikey only posts on high days and holidays.

Something has most definitely driven away scores of former posters who used to make a valuable contribution and whose posts I used to enjoy reading and conversing with. No disrepect to those who are left now but, somehow, it's no longer quite the same. It's not rocket science (sorry DelBoy) to figure that the root cause of the mass exodus is a 4-letter word beginning in "F" and ending in "D".

The end result is that we're now only left with a couple of subscriber-only threads and certain Freeview threads were starting to be bumped onto the PPV simply to "make up the numbers". The daily "Good Morning" thread and the "Fred Israeli Diatribe" thread are really all that's left in the Traders' Room once the other crap has been removed.

Seeing as I couldn't be arsed to plough through page after page of Fred's rants, I decided to walk away quietly. But ..... the forum isn't about whether or not I choose to post and, quite frankly, it's a little bit sad that some people seem to think that it is.

Seymour is only part-right imo when he says that AM is dying. The Traders' Room side of it died long ago when Fred began his mission to drive 90% of the regulars away. That said, I believe Haystack is quite correct and AM's business model is strong as it revolves around providing content and in obtaining the associated subscriptions and ad revenues from page impressions. I'm happy to admit that I check in each day for content research and I'm sure that AM will survive perfectly well without either a forum or my contributions to it.