goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 09 Jul 2011 14:08
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Aids,
I don't mind having a Labour muppet.
It is better than being a muppet. How does it feel?
For information, I have never been a labour party voter, although I have certain attachment to some of their basic values and the intention of the ideological thinking.
It is the method of achieving those ideals, which present problems to me.
At the momenr, one of the problems, I can see is that "self interest" is lorded and acceptable to the tory party, even when it and its policies disproportionally disenfranchise a less able group within society.
The values of "Loads of dough", comes to mind!
However, I recognise that many of the fractions, within the members of the "labour" party, wish to implement policies out of self interest and sometimes self advancement, but to a less blatant degree as is apparent in the present tory ideologues.
Again, what sticks out to me is the posturing of the present "caring" government. For me, it is the most hypocritical and shallow government I can remember (I have a long memory.)
I think that its results of many of its policies will lead to increasing fragmentation of society, i.e into "us and them mentality", which has potential dangers.
(My guess is that the public will not tolerate the obviously increasing inequalities in society. Previous generations may have prepared to accept the differences, but due to changes in communications and the media leading to increased awareness of larger groups of society, the present generations will not be as tolerant. May be wrong, but I did write guess.)
dreamcatcher
- 09 Jul 2011 16:07
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Trying to get the garden done, its pis---g down. Found a muppet.
Fred1new
- 09 Jul 2011 17:34
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That isn't Aids.
dreamcatcher
- 09 Jul 2011 17:37
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Do you have a better picture?
2517GEORGE
- 09 Jul 2011 18:27
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Re post 11468 strangely enough that was my view of the labour party when they were in power, and largely responsible for the mess (debt) we're in now. They bribed huge numbers of the electorate, especially many (not all) of those on benefits by making it ok not to work, they created huge numbers of state funded jobs and non jobs and kept interest rates too low for too long, thus fuelling a consumer boom. Brown was right when he said he had done away with 'boom and bust', it's just bust now, Goldilocks won't be back anytime soon.
I firmly believe that had labour won the last election then they would have been in power for many many more years to come due to the vast numbers of bought votes. Whilst the Tories are far from perfect I feel we had a lucky escape.
2517
Fred1new
- 09 Jul 2011 18:35
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2517,
Maybe it is better for some.
But think of the Old Lady, an ex-ballerina who had multiple strokes, who due to necessary cut backs is expected to lie in her own faeces, in incontinent nappies.
That is the effect the uncaring bigger society.
I don't know all the details, but the social services director think it acceptable to stop her night care and leave in that situations.
But I think that some of the profits of UK to prevent that standard of care.
Even though it may mean increased taxation and/or reduction in our Arm Services.
The Non-jobs you may be referring to may be the low paid social care workers.
Would you do their job?
Perhaps, you or members of your family may need their assistance sometime in the future. I hope they are treated with more
dignity that the ballerina.
It is obvious that the Brown and Labour made mistakes,(which government doesn't), but they also improved medical and social care immensely during their period in government.
Just out of interest did you called the economic crash and the depth of it before it occurred?
dreamcatcher
- 09 Jul 2011 18:37
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In other words the tories are the best we have.
Fred1new
- 09 Jul 2011 18:55
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514,
PS. The old lady made the headlines because who she was and is now.
Dreams.
God help everyone if that is true.
(And I am an atheist!)
dreamcatcher
- 09 Jul 2011 19:08
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Look how well we are getting on with USA,France (sorry), Germany, the list goes on.
If labour had looked after the finances, the conservatives could have done so much more. There always comes a day of reckoning with debt and the cons have inherited this. Our AAA status is so important for world trade,interest rates and so on. The IMF
are fully behind yes DC for the way the debt restructuring is going. This AAA status would be junk rated under Labour now. China would then be buying our bonds (to take us over and rule the world) They have not helped Greece as they like them, have they.
dreamcatcher
- 09 Jul 2011 19:29
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How can the Americans be close with a Labour politician after Iraq. I do not think so.
I think we are thought of more around the world then ever now. Labour can swing.
dreamcatcher
- 09 Jul 2011 19:34
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dreamcatcher
- 09 Jul 2011 20:35
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I think this picture has done it folks. Fred has gone off to the nut house.
aldwickk
- 09 Jul 2011 21:53
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So Fred is a non voting atheist who likes to make big money [ some hope ] on the stockmarket , i told him years ago to invest in small gold mining co's
People around the World are fighting and being killed to have the right to vote .
He as already decided that Labour would be the better party to run the country yet he does not vote for them ........ the only reason he post on here is wind people up , did you see how he didn't answer 2517GEORGE post and diverted to a post about an ex-ballerina as if we didn't have story's like that under caring Blair & Brown
Martini
- 09 Jul 2011 22:42
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For the first and last time in my life I will buy a copy of the News of the World tomorrow.
Morbid curiosity maybe but not as an investment as they are are printing 5m of them.
I wonder how long it will take before they are being offered on ebay?
MaxK
- 09 Jul 2011 23:50
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Martini
Blimey, a name from the past..
dreamcatcher
- 10 Jul 2011 06:36
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Off to get the last news of the world. May be worth a fortune in time. lol
Fred1new
- 10 Jul 2011 09:11
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News of the World.
Good riddance.
dreamcatcher
- 10 Jul 2011 09:16
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I like the thank you and goodbye. I don't feel sorry for them. Goodbye and good riddance.
Fred1new
- 10 Jul 2011 09:43
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It may be appropriate before you lord Cameron and Osborne's mismanagement of the economy too much, to look at the charts of the Pound sterling against the Euro, since the torie coalition party con the electorate into voting for them.
Don't believe the crap that devaluation is good for the UK.
It has potential to stimulate an economy initially, but the devaluation without some inflation usually comes back to haunt it.
This government's policies has choked off the UK economic recovery, which was occurring prior to their election. The rate of recovery is slowing and the rates are slower.
If you can't recognise this try reading the Money markets data.
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Aids,
If you got gold right, which you are continually crowing about, give us the name of your financial advisor, as I doubt the decisions you made were down to you.
dreamcatcher
- 10 Jul 2011 10:29
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Fred your post 11484, Sorry for 5 mins later saying good riddance. I did not read your post before. Now that has worried me, the posts much the same. DC